It's not desert. The precise term escapes me at this time, but we're semi arid, not all the way dry enough to qualify.
Mal: Well, look at this! Appears we got here just in the nick of time. What does that make us? Zoe: Big damn heroes, sir.
'Safe'
Boxed Set, Vol. II: "It's a Cookbook...A Cookbook!!"
A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.
Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.
This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.
§ ita § - Oct 21, 2005 4:39:47 pm PDT #4936 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
sumi - Oct 22, 2005 8:29:47 pm PDT #4937 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!
I finished watching my BSG dvds today. There must be a Presidential election coming up sometime. . . relatively soon. Time passes very slowling in the BSG 'verse -- we're probably still 3 or 4 months away from the election, right? So, it might possibly be around the time of the season finale?
§ ita § - Oct 22, 2005 9:04:23 pm PDT #4938 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
A friend was telling me he was watching Stargate, but then it was all Dark Crystal and WTF and puppets and ... I guess more people are going to be introduced to Farscape that way round.
He didn't love it. Compared Rygel to Jar Jar Binks.
Which makes me wonder -- Rygel was such a puppet for me, and really very annoying -- I can't work out the causality -- Rygel was small, irritating and always a puppet to me. Pilot was large, gracious, and just a character. Did I forget he was a puppet because his annoyingness didn't snap me out of my suspension of disbelief? Did his size help?
Just not sure.
Consuela - Oct 22, 2005 9:11:27 pm PDT #4939 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
Compared Rygel to Jar Jar?
... oh, dear.
§ ita § - Oct 22, 2005 9:13:01 pm PDT #4940 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Yeah -- the general superfluity of the non-human character. And the caricaturishness.
beth b - Oct 22, 2005 10:31:44 pm PDT #4941 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!
but... I know peoplethat are like rygel...
thought I think what made him more puppet was that he moved around , but with out legs. Pilot didn't move - so the word puppet didn't scream
Betsy HP - Oct 23, 2005 8:34:47 am PDT #4942 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
I think Pilot's scale helps, and also that he has a job to do. Pilot is essential to their survival; Rygen is bitchy comedy relief.
If you point out that this also applies to Jool and Sikozu, I'm good with that.
DebetEsse - Oct 23, 2005 9:12:57 am PDT #4943 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.
Yeah, there was nothing wrong with Rygel that wasn't wrong with other characters. The thing, IMO, was that he was there from the start, and he was the only one really in that classification at the beginning. Everyone else was useful, and had some aspect of their character that was not off-putting, so the muppet-ness wasn't overtaken by the character-ness.
But, then, I had no issue with a puppet character, so I may not be the best one to figure it out.
Consuela - Oct 23, 2005 9:19:06 am PDT #4944 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
Speaking of Farscape, Birgit has added a couple of new vids to her site, including a simply marvelous one done to Elton John's "Rocket Man". [link]
Jessica - Oct 23, 2005 5:29:20 pm PDT #4945 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
The very early puppeteering on Rygel wasn't as smooth as Pilot's, and I think being able to see all of him made him more difficult to take seriously. At first, anyway. The only muppets I was never able to fully suspend disbelief for were the faux-Skeksies, and then only because I couldn't stop hearing "Skeksieeeeeees iiiiiiiiiin Spaaaaaaaaaaace!" in my head.
And Rygel was a useful negotiator at times. Not often enough to make anyone forget what an aggravating little shit he was the rest of the time, but he wasn't completely useless.
So, did anyone watch Threshold? Way to kill off someone I'd completely forgotten about until this episode! Even after the plane was shot down, I was left wondering "So who's gonna die?"
Kind of lame, but better than the alternatives.