I get confused. I remember everything. I remember too much, and... some of it's made up, and... some of it can't be quantified, and... there's secrets.

River ,'Safe'


Boxed Set, Vol. II: "It's a Cookbook...A Cookbook!!"  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Betsy HP - Oct 05, 2005 12:37:42 pm PDT #4752 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Would somebody care to try to explain "Moebius" to me? Again?


Katie M - Oct 05, 2005 12:49:06 pm PDT #4753 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

SG-1 finds a time machine. Daniel finds something that he believes to be a reference to a ZPM (yay lite-brite power source!) in 5000 BC. "Wanna go back in time?" he says. "Sure!" everyone else says. So SG-1 goes back in time to ancient Egypt. They get the ZPM. Yay! Their time machine is found, and Sam is all party-pooper about "we can't change the timeline" so they don't take it back. Boo! Instead, they get a nice tent to live in and bury the ZPM somewhere where it will be found in 2005, along with a wildly classified taped message from them to the future.

Fast-forward to 2005. Turns out that in the new timeline, the Stargate was taken offworld when the Egyptians rebelled, so there is no Stargate Program! The tape is found, along with a tablet carved by original!timeline Daniel explaining the location of the other Stargate, and the previous members of SG-1 are rounded up. They go to pick up Teal'c, during which time Daniel is snaked and killed. Then Jack and Sam and Teal'c go back in time to Ancient Egypt.

Back in Ancient Egypt, they meet up with the original timeline's Daniel, who is the only surviving member of the original SG-1. Together, they plan a new rebellion, during which they will use the new SG-1's time machine to steal the Stargate, in the hopes that this will get them back to the original timeline. Jack thinks Daniel is gay, Sam and Jack get it on, and alas, Sam is kidding about wanting Daniel instead of Jack. Sigh.

Fast-forward to 2005. SG-1 now has a spiffy ZPM, along with the tape from the first version of SG-1. "Huh," they said, "that was the best mission ever. We didn't even have to do anything!" And then they go fishing. The end.


Betsy HP - Oct 05, 2005 12:51:54 pm PDT #4754 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Which SG-1 team are we now dealing with? What happened to the original timeline's Daniel? Does anybody remember all the alternate timelines?


Katie M - Oct 05, 2005 12:52:55 pm PDT #4755 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Also, a diagram.


Katie M - Oct 05, 2005 12:55:33 pm PDT #4756 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Which SG-1 team are we now dealing with?

I think we're dealing with a new one as of Moebius, with the same backstory as the original version. (There's a whole little thing with the original Jack using "my lake has no fish in it" as a fact about his timeline, and then the lake at the end of the episode having fish.)

What happened to the original timeline's Daniel?

Unknown. Presumably he lived out the rest of his life in Egypt, though we don't know that; we know that the original Daniel in the timeline that lead to the Dorkverse lived through the rebellion, but we don't know that about the timeline we're in now.

Does anybody remember all the alternate timelines?

Nope. They all just remember their own.


Betsy HP - Oct 05, 2005 12:56:59 pm PDT #4757 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Dorkverse?


Betsy HP - Oct 05, 2005 12:59:09 pm PDT #4758 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Okay. So the people who are living out a tragic meaningless life in Egypt in Suela's story are Daniel A and Jack, Sam, and Teal'C B?


Katie M - Oct 05, 2005 1:01:42 pm PDT #4759 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Dorkverse?

Sorry. The Sam and Daniel from the no-Stargate Program timeline are v. v. dorky. The actors ham it up like crazy.

Okay. So the people who are living out a tragic meaningless life in Egypt in Suela's story are Daniel A and Jack, Sam, and Teal'C B?

I think Suela's stories are all set before Jack and Sam and Teal'c A died, so they're all As.


Betsy HP - Oct 05, 2005 1:03:48 pm PDT #4760 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

You know what I like about FARSCAPE? The real, our-universe John Crichton is amazingly dorky. That takes guts.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 05, 2005 2:26:33 pm PDT #4761 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

The fictional apple didn't fall far from the real tree, I'm thinking. Ben Browder is a huge sci-fi geek who just happened to be born with the looks and acting talent of a leading man.