Much, much, much though I love CB's performance, Vala is a completely unconvincing con woman. People know she's conning them before she even opens her mouth. You can't believe that anybody would buy into her for a second. Saffron was much better at it.
Inara: So. Would you like to lecture me on the wickedness of my ways? Book: I brought you some supper, but if you'd prefer a lecture, I've a few very catchy ones prepped. Sin and hellfire... one has lepers.
'Serenity'
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Betsy HP - Aug 05, 2005 7:40:18 pm PDT #2874 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
sumi - Aug 05, 2005 9:04:11 pm PDT #2875 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!
It's true. CB is lots of fun -- and this episode was very enjoyable -- but nobody would ever deal with her because she is so obviously untrustworthy.
Meanwhile - - on re-watch: Baltar asked for numbers of Cylons in the Fleet not on the ship. . . I'm thinking that maybe that representative who knows all the prophecies could be one. . . or maybe Zarek. . .
Katie M - Aug 05, 2005 10:51:49 pm PDT #2876 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
It's true. CB is lots of fun -- and this episode was very enjoyable -- but nobody would ever deal with her because she is so obviously untrustworthy.
Maybe they figure they will thus be able to con her. Or, you know, they enjoy the sex. *waves hands madly*
DXMachina - Aug 06, 2005 1:48:03 am PDT #2877 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
I briefly did a double take when Roslin was looking at Zarek while addressing "Captain Apollo" just off screen.
Yeah, Vala is way over the top, although she did do a good job of getting to Daniel with the whole "I was engaged, then they stuck a Goa'uld in me" story.
DebetEsse - Aug 06, 2005 4:08:26 am PDT #2878 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.
But had he not done the, "No, wait, you're full of shit on general principle," thing, I'd have been rolling my eyes for days.
Jessica - Aug 06, 2005 6:23:17 am PDT #2879 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I buy that Vala could con someone once, which seems to be her MO, and I buy that she can talk her way out of being killed with her "But I'm so darn CUTE!" act when she's caught, because, well, she is. And she seems to be aware enough of her reputation to avoid going back to people/places she's stolen from.
DCJensen - Aug 06, 2005 7:20:33 am PDT #2880 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.
The old James Garner movie Skin Game taught you to "never go back to a town you've conned."
Betsy HP - Aug 06, 2005 7:24:52 am PDT #2881 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
I think Vala's comment about being engaged until the Goauld took her was real, and that she then couldn't resist taking it over the top. But she was absolutely still saying it, in the way that she never is when trying to lie. See above re: incompetent con artist.
Consuela - Aug 06, 2005 8:17:29 am PDT #2882 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
I enjoyed the hell out of SG-1, even though it didn't progress anything so far as I could tell, other than the funding thing. So now there's gonna be a civilian watchdog? Kinsey's gone, so ... should we hope for Robert Picardo again? I haven't heard any rumors of yet more new cast.
I have to admit, the meeting with the senator made all my meta-radar alarms go off.
The leather pants were a riot, as was the trail of silly missions. And the concept of a Jaffa trader... Huh. It makes some kind of sense, except in 9 years, we've never ever seen any Jaffa do anything but fight or be priests. It's a big break from established concepts of Jaffa culture.
Frankly, I'd have expected the Jaffa to step into the Goa'uld role on a lot of planets: they've got the weaponry, they've got the military habit down. Why not just take over and keep the human population working for them?
Loved Vala, though if Daniel had bought her line in the guest room, I would have thrown things at the tv. Glad to see he's keeping his brain going, despite the allure of yet another broken damsel. I'm gonna miss CB something awful. ::pouts:: what's wrong with having two women on the show, for pete's sake?
Theodosia - Aug 06, 2005 8:28:46 am PDT #2883 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
In a sense, the fall of the Gou'ald is like the South during Reconstruction, or the end of the Soviet Union, with the reorganization of just about everything and upsets all around -- Jaffa out of jobs, even. It does make sense that not every one was suited to be a soldier/high priest -- surely some of them just wanted to be dentists, or really didn't like uniforms, or eyeliner.