'Selfless'
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I did, sumi. Also those ghosty things from Matrix 2.
It was not bad, but not great either. And in my heart I know it was just shite.
But, yeah, the voiceovers had me a little misty-eyed.
And I was pleased that I finally figured out that Archer's Enterprise just didn't have a registry number etc, and that was why Kirk's had no letter after it. only took me, what, four years?
He really was fairly awful, even if some of his points were spot on. But then they do that on SG-1 anyway: they bring on a character and have them make some really good, compelling arguments pointing out the SGC's arrogance, stupidity, or blind luck. And then they undercut them completely because OMGSG-1isalwaysright11111!!!!11!
Yeah, it's not that Rodney's points are at all unreasonable in 48 Hours. It's just that he's such an asshole about how he goes about making them. (And then I get grumpy, because he gets the "oh, really under all that he's vulnerable!" fannish edit, which I only have patience for when it's my favorite characters getting it. So.)
Kinsey, anyone? Katoya? Wassname the Russian scientist? Hell, all the Russians, really.
The one truly wonderful thing about Politics is that Kinsey is completely right. They really would have been much better off never opening the Stargate in the first place.
They really would have been much better off never opening the Stargate in the first place
I know they never talk in detail about the advances in technology and medicine they've made due to stargate travel, since that'd make their universe even more divergent from ours, but even not counting the whole "they'll get to us later rather than sooner, but they'll get to us" I think I disagree with you.
Or perhaps regard it as inevitable. I doubt if Kinsey had been put in charge at the git go that he wouldn't have opened it. Severely doubt.
Huh. I thought it was really, really, really bad.
Never said the ep was great. I said the last few seconds with the shots and the words got me.
Although it's interesting that they placed the future scenes within the time frame of the ST: TNG episode "The Pegasus," which aired 11 years ago (S7, episode 12).
I wouldn't want to pull out the episode and compare the two actors...
I know they never talk in detail about the advances in technology and medicine they've made due to stargate travel, since that'd make their universe even more divergent from ours, but even not counting the whole "they'll get to us later rather than sooner, but they'll get to us" I think I disagree with you.
Depends on how you weight risk, I guess. They hadn't gotten to us in the past two thousand years; if the gate had stayed buried, Apophis would've given it a look, said "oh, still not working," and moved right along to the next. Sure, they might've tripped over us eventually, but you're trading a potential threat down the line for several near-world-destroying threats right now. (Not to mention the completely legit issues around public knowledge and consent.)
There are a whole bunch of AUs out there for which the decision to open up led to the destruction of Earth.
There are a whole bunch of AUs out there for which the decision to open up led to the destruction of Earth.
I'm sure there could be a whole bunch for whom the decision resulted in patently better life for everyone -- they just don't make as tense television.
I'm also not of the opinion that public knowledge and consent are required. Couple that with the human inability to investigate, I think it's like inventing the wheel. Sure, there are a whole lot more auto accidents now, but we were going to invent the wheel sooner or later anyway.
When I was listening to Kinsey, I was thinking "Yeah? And we had some troubles with all that coming to the Americas from the European continent, but it happened, and we're dealing with it."
The djin is out of the bottle, and whining about opening it isn't all that constructive.
ETA: or what ita said.
What is Rommie? Andromeda::Rommie as Ship::AI?
Then what's the personality on Andromeda herself called? I mean -- isn't it a tri-fold entity? Is it ship, personality of ship, robot?
I was under the impression that Rommie is to Andromeda as the projections of Pilot in the clamshells are to Pilot. Same person, just differently expressed.
Wouldn't that whole mess with Doyle indicate that the Rommie android/robot does have some individual identity apart from the larger ship's consciousness?