I miss Oz. He'd get it. He wouldn't say anything, but he'd get it.

Xander ,'Get It Done'


Boxed Set, Vol. II: "It's a Cookbook...A Cookbook!!"  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


DCJensen - May 14, 2005 5:39:50 am PDT #1156 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Huh. I thought it was really, really, really bad.

Never said the ep was great. I said the last few seconds with the shots and the words got me.

Although it's interesting that they placed the future scenes within the time frame of the ST: TNG episode "The Pegasus," which aired 11 years ago (S7, episode 12).

I wouldn't want to pull out the episode and compare the two actors...


Katie M - May 14, 2005 5:44:50 am PDT #1157 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

I know they never talk in detail about the advances in technology and medicine they've made due to stargate travel, since that'd make their universe even more divergent from ours, but even not counting the whole "they'll get to us later rather than sooner, but they'll get to us" I think I disagree with you.

Depends on how you weight risk, I guess. They hadn't gotten to us in the past two thousand years; if the gate had stayed buried, Apophis would've given it a look, said "oh, still not working," and moved right along to the next. Sure, they might've tripped over us eventually, but you're trading a potential threat down the line for several near-world-destroying threats right now. (Not to mention the completely legit issues around public knowledge and consent.)

There are a whole bunch of AUs out there for which the decision to open up led to the destruction of Earth.


§ ita § - May 14, 2005 5:47:44 am PDT #1158 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

There are a whole bunch of AUs out there for which the decision to open up led to the destruction of Earth.

I'm sure there could be a whole bunch for whom the decision resulted in patently better life for everyone -- they just don't make as tense television.

I'm also not of the opinion that public knowledge and consent are required. Couple that with the human inability to investigate, I think it's like inventing the wheel. Sure, there are a whole lot more auto accidents now, but we were going to invent the wheel sooner or later anyway.


DCJensen - May 14, 2005 6:00:26 am PDT #1159 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

When I was listening to Kinsey, I was thinking "Yeah? And we had some troubles with all that coming to the Americas from the European continent, but it happened, and we're dealing with it."

The djin is out of the bottle, and whining about opening it isn't all that constructive.

ETA: or what ita said.


§ ita § - May 14, 2005 6:18:18 am PDT #1160 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What is Rommie? Andromeda::Rommie as Ship::AI?

Then what's the personality on Andromeda herself called? I mean -- isn't it a tri-fold entity? Is it ship, personality of ship, robot?


Betsy HP - May 14, 2005 6:34:25 am PDT #1161 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I was under the impression that Rommie is to Andromeda as the projections of Pilot in the clamshells are to Pilot. Same person, just differently expressed.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 14, 2005 6:36:18 am PDT #1162 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Wouldn't that whole mess with Doyle indicate that the Rommie android/robot does have some individual identity apart from the larger ship's consciousness?


§ ita § - May 14, 2005 6:41:15 am PDT #1163 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Rommie has disagreed with Andromeda on many occasions, so she's not just an expression. She even fell in love -- wasn't she going to leave?


Nutty - May 14, 2005 7:09:14 am PDT #1164 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

then I get grumpy, because he gets the "oh, really under all that he's vulnerable!" fannish edit

I have never watched enough of the show to have a strong opinion of the matter, but I was watching one night when McKay said, "I don't know if you've noticed, but I'm an extremely arrogant man. Of course I think it's going to work."

Which made me laugh and laugh. Most of the extremely arrogant people I know are totally unaware that they're arrogant.


§ ita § - May 14, 2005 7:16:42 am PDT #1165 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Maybe he went to McGill. All of my co-alumni seem to cop calmly to it.