I gave her everything... jewels, beautiful dresses -- with beautiful girls in them.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Natter 33 1/3  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Anne W. - Feb 24, 2005 7:48:57 am PST #799 of 10002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Isn't the first commandment different from catholic to Protestants to jews? I know there's some wonkiness in there, somewhere.

I think they divvy them up differently, in terms of where the number breaks come.

I should know this but I don't: Are the "10 Commandments" ever referred to as such in the Old or New Testaments?


DavidS - Feb 24, 2005 7:50:08 am PST #800 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I should know this but I don't: Are the "10 Commandments" ever referred to as such in the Old or New Testaments?

I think it started as The Ten Suggestions.


Jesse - Feb 24, 2005 7:51:53 am PST #801 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Thanks to biblegateway.com:

Exodus 34:28 (New International Version)
28 Moses was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights without eating bread or drinking water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant-the Ten Commandments.


-t - Feb 24, 2005 7:53:08 am PST #802 of 10002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

It's different in Judaism. The first commandment is "I am the lord your god who brought you out of the land of Egypt" (i'm a little unclear in what way that's a commandment) and the ones about coveting property and wives are just one. I believe they appear twice in Exodus (guessing on the book, but it's an informed guess) in slightly different forms. We had a whole class on this in Intro to Judaism.


tommyrot - Feb 24, 2005 8:02:25 am PST #803 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

This is freaky. They just found the camera of a couple who were killed by the tsunami. There are a bunch of pictures of the wave approaching and hitting the shore. [link]

eta: Go to the "gallery" near the bottom of the page to see the pictures.


Nutty - Feb 24, 2005 8:10:43 am PST #804 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I do remember opening Exodus as a teenager, trying to find the Ten Commandments, and finding pages and pages of commandments with no idea which ones were the ten. I may have accidentally flipped ahead too many pages and ended up in Leviticus; but the upshot was, lots of commandments, too few line-breaks.


brenda m - Feb 24, 2005 8:12:12 am PST #805 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

That's because there's no commandment requiring editing.


Jessica - Feb 24, 2005 8:13:16 am PST #806 of 10002
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

lots of commandments, too few line-breaks.

There are 613 in total. The 10 are just the ones that would fit on the first couple of tablets.


§ ita § - Feb 24, 2005 8:13:25 am PST #807 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think it started as The Ten Suggestions.

Are you saying they weren't so much rules, as guidelines?

Leviticus was my favourite book, until I discovered the Song of Solomon.

I have no headache. I have the edges of the headache, and the wonkies, but really? No headache is the most important thing.


Stephanie - Feb 24, 2005 8:23:28 am PST #808 of 10002
Trust my rage

What confuses me about the term "First Commandment" is that if you are looking in the Old Testament (if you are Christian), you would assume that means the first of the ten**. But in the New Testament, Jesus says the first commandment is "Love the Lord your God with all your heart...and the second is love your neighbor as yourself." (I think this is the same thing -t is referring to - at least the same words although maybe not from the same exact place in the scripture since Jews don't use the New Testament.)

** which is this:

I am the lord your god who brought you out of the land of Egypt
but also
you shall have no other gods before me
(I think that's the commandment part.)

ETA: And before the biblical pedants strike, I see now that according to the New Testament, Jesus refers to the greatest commandment, not the first, so never mind....