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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Topic!Cindy - Feb 24, 2005 7:12:06 am PST #791 of 10002
What is even happening?

Oh, I was taught in confirmation class (junior high school age) that you broke the 1st if you spent any time not thinking about God.

Oh, were you confirmed Catholic, Fred, or in another tradition? I don't know why, but it helps to know this might not just be a Protestant problem.

So by being a Pagan and admitting to having other gods before Him, I'm actually coming out ahead because at least I was honest about it? Score!
Nope, sorry (I am trying to figure out how to make a nasty buzzer sound come across in letters, but Eeeeeeeeeehndt is the best I can come up with).

The point, and this is the part where I was saying I agree, is there is just the law. The commandments make up the one law. If I've broken a part of the law, I've broken the law. Period. That's the part I take to. There is no good enough. It's not about me being good enough. Alone, I can't be. That doesn't mean I am not supposed to be, but that doesn't tear down the wall I've put between myself and G-d, through complete fault of my own.

But in practice, it sometimes then all devolves into foolishness, because people try to make other people sweat whichever commandment is their pet one. Or we get the usual Roman Catholic vs. Protestant foolishness, about faith v. works, where (imo) hard-liners on both extremes miss the point, which is, real faith will cause a regeneration--a death to my life in which I was enslaved to sin, and a life in which by nature (because I'm dead to sin and alive to Christ) my works will be good. The hardliners on one side, hear salvation by faith alone, but many seem to forget about working out that salvation in fear and trembling over the course of a lifetime, and that faith without works is dead. The hardliners on the other side know that faith without works is dead, but many seem to think it is all about works, as if grace if ever something one can earn. If it is earned, it's not grace.

Sorry. t /issues

Off to pick up the rugrats, take 'em out to lunch, and conquer the Federal Government. When come back, will bring pie.


shrift - Feb 24, 2005 7:12:17 am PST #792 of 10002
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Oh, I was taught in confirmation class (junior high school age) that you broke the 1st if you spent any time not thinking about God.

Do you mean, like, actively thinking about God? Even when asleep? You dream of a llama on a pogo stick instead of God and you go to hell?

Because, I'm sayin', I don't even think about porn 24/7.

And fantastic, I'm exporting a huge file and somebody came up behind me when I couldn't get my browser to minimize. Time to go to lunch, I think, and pick back up when the damn file finishes exporting.


Gudanov - Feb 24, 2005 7:14:26 am PST #793 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping

and conquer the Federal Government. When come back, will bring pie.

Dude, they give you pie if you conquer the Federal Government? If I knew that, I'm being trying to conquer the government all the time.


JohnSweden - Feb 24, 2005 7:16:06 am PST #794 of 10002
I can't even.

Boy there's just no winning with this God. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Brian Of Nazareth: "There's no pleasing some people."

Ex-leper: "That's just what Jesus said, sir."


Fred Pete - Feb 24, 2005 7:33:32 am PST #795 of 10002
Ann, that's a ferret.

Oh, were you confirmed Catholic, Fred, or in another tradition?

Missouri Synod Lutheran, Cindy. It was a long, long time before I learned that there was a liberal tradition in Lutheranism.

Do you mean, like, actively thinking about God? Even when asleep? You dream of a llama on a pogo stick instead of God and you go to hell?

I don't remember the class going into that. It was more of a "everybody breaks the 1st" lesson.


DavidS - Feb 24, 2005 7:40:50 am PST #796 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Lucky UPS guy.

shrift worships porn. All hail the porn.

btw, shrift, how're you set for T.Rex? Do you have More Than Enough, or room for a few Lesser Known Gems ("Jewel", "Buick Mackane" "Baby Strange") in your glam mix?

I'm sorry my friends who have faith, but once again, I'm getting a top note of Religion = Freaky. But with a metallic aftertaste of Geek.


Lyra Jane - Feb 24, 2005 7:45:43 am PST #797 of 10002
Up with the sun

Putin's soul is in the news to distract from tapes of Bush talking about smoking the Weed

I heard the weed-smoking clip on the Daily Show last night. Um, at least he's honest about it, I guess.

Isn't the first commandment different from catholic to Protestants to jews? I know there's some wonkiness in there, somewhere.


Kat - Feb 24, 2005 7:47:14 am PST #798 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

This wasn't an ad for a fictional program, I take it?

Sadly no. But it was also a local news thing, so grain of salt it.

I'm watching the end of Season 6 of SatC. Mikhail Baryshnikov. ROWR. Doubleplusgood ROWR. And, a short man. What is coming over me?

I want to make a Rapture List of people who are kicked off my rapture list. The rapture website people would be on that list.


Anne W. - Feb 24, 2005 7:48:57 am PST #799 of 10002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Isn't the first commandment different from catholic to Protestants to jews? I know there's some wonkiness in there, somewhere.

I think they divvy them up differently, in terms of where the number breaks come.

I should know this but I don't: Are the "10 Commandments" ever referred to as such in the Old or New Testaments?


DavidS - Feb 24, 2005 7:50:08 am PST #800 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I should know this but I don't: Are the "10 Commandments" ever referred to as such in the Old or New Testaments?

I think it started as The Ten Suggestions.