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'The Killer In Me'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 14, 2005 11:33:09 am PST #7149 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

People here are 1) suprised when a 6-8 hour project they didn't tell me was a rush until after 5:00 on Friday isn't done yet, and 2) expecting me to care.

Did you laugh at them, Lee?


lori - Mar 14, 2005 11:33:31 am PST #7150 of 10002

ignoring all the homeschooly talk to post a random link

Have y'all seen this? It's work-safe and damn funny. And has the most perfectly descriptive title ever - Kung-fool.


Aims - Mar 14, 2005 11:34:05 am PST #7151 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.

The state of the LAUSD is the reason Joe and I have The Five Year Plan. As soon as Emeline is old enough to be in a public school, we are heading back to Michigan. I plan on being a very involved parent in the school district, but feel that, for me, the LAUSD is just too big to make change in any time frame that would benefit my child. She's covered at the Montessori School through kidnergarten, so I have 5 more years to think about it. But I'd rather move than homeschool her. I feel that I would be not motivated enough and the Joe might push her too hard for it to be beneficial to her.

Besides, if we home schooled her, who would I blame for screwing up her education?? ;)


Lee - Mar 14, 2005 11:37:04 am PST #7152 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

People here are 1) suprised when a 6-8 hour project they didn't tell me was a rush until after 5:00 on Friday isn't done yet, and 2) expecting me to care.

Did you laugh at them, Lee?

Yes, but since I am also hiding in my office pretending they don't exist, there may be a flaw in my logic as well.

Oh well.


Emily - Mar 14, 2005 11:47:45 am PST #7153 of 10002
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

But, but... Aimee, you're messing with my plan to move to California and teach Algebra to Emma!

If only I had a magic clicky thing what puts the rest of the universe on pause.

Yeah, at first you're using it to catch up on email and get the last box of Cap'n Crunch, but next thing you know the missiles are on their way and you have to freeze everyone and spend the rest of your life alone.

At night, the ice weasels come.


Trudy Booth - Mar 14, 2005 11:47:51 am PST #7154 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Not going to enter into the home school vs public school debate here just because I see it as primarily a pragmatic issue, not a moral one.

I think it largely is a moral question.

I agree that good public school are the lifeblood of a healthy democracy. Look how beautifully the voters being manipulated by half-truths and unconstitutional behavior at the moment-- in my paranoid moments I'd almost think the current administration is intentionally weakening public education.

Of course there are exceptions and of course you need to do whats best for your child... but sometimes what is best for your child is supplementing certain school defficiencies at home in order for them to participate in the culture and for informed concerned parents to remain engaged in defense/maintenance/support of public education.

My children are hypothetical, but I am a New Yorker and many (though not ALL for pete's sake) of our public schools are really struggling. This is something I don't take lightly.

I look at all the time and money parents spend on their children's private schools. Some are making the choice to direct those energies to the public good -- and I think that largely is a moral decision to build a strong society.


Aims - Mar 14, 2005 11:50:47 am PST #7155 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.

But, but... Aimee, you're messing with my plan to move to California and teach Algebra to Emma!

You've got some time. Get yer fanny in gear!


Nutty - Mar 14, 2005 11:53:57 am PST #7156 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I agree that good public school are the lifeblood of a healthy democracy. Look how beautifully the voters being manipulated by half-truths and unconstitutional behavior at the moment

Point of order -- people have been stupid, easily misled, and willingly manipulated for as long as we've had democracy, and a lot longer. Demagoguery is not a new word.

Also, taken historically, if we could quantify education as N number of kids learning S number of skills and X number of other things (perspectives, facts, exposure to new ideas both practical and impractical), I bet that we still come out winning at this late date. Lots more people in the 18th-19th C signed their legal papers by making an X, because they couldn't write their names, than do now.


§ ita § - Mar 14, 2005 11:55:13 am PST #7157 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I agree that good public school are the lifeblood of a healthy democracy.

Can homeschooling destroy democracy? Even though we know it will always be a minority position?

I know that bad public schools could, but that's not the same thing.


Betsy HP - Mar 14, 2005 11:55:14 am PST #7158 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

I agree that good public school are the lifeblood of a healthy democracy.

Yup. The question is, what do you do when you're living in an area that doesn't value public schools?

For instance, when I lived in Massachusetts during the post-Reagan crash, some towns closed the schools in *April* rather than pass a school bond. The answer? "I know this is bad for the schools, but our taxes are too high."

Believe me, parents campaigned and held signs and sent out flyers. The town as a whole responded, "Education isn't that important to us."

That's when you say Screw this, I'm taking care of my kid, and I consider that a completely moral response.