Hey, don't worry about it. Nest full of vampires, you come get me, okay. Box full of puppies, that's more of a judgement call.

Jonathan ,'Lies My Parents Told Me'


Natter 33 1/3  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Mar 14, 2005 10:25:10 am PST #7093 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Here, too.

I presume it's fairly common but only really know from my own experience. And while treading such volatile subject matter decided (for once) to keep my ex cloaca commentary localized.


§ ita § - Mar 14, 2005 10:27:41 am PST #7094 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think homeschooling will harm the child any more than public schooling won't. Am I prepared to sacrifice my child's education to prop up the education of the country as a whole? I think many parents would not (my MP cousin in the UK got busted on just this). Is there a place for people without children in them to help fix the public schools?

As for the religious whackjobs -- if your agenda is (mostly) the one in charge, well, of course keep your kids in public education. But if they were being taught creationism, racism, sexism or homophobia, and you couldn't get the school to stop (or decided that's fine for those who're okay with the values, but not your kids), why not homeschool? I'm sure that's what it looks like to the "whackjobs."


msbelle - Mar 14, 2005 10:28:42 am PST #7095 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

that does not sound workplace appropriate.

one thing about knowing your job is ending. No real need to apologize for mistakes.

my mantra when dealing with this one-coworkers is "Suck it Trebec" in my inside the head voice.


DavidS - Mar 14, 2005 10:28:57 am PST #7096 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Sometimes that's untenable, for a myriad of reasons. Parent(s) can't get a job in the new location, the family currently lives somewhere where they're tied to extended family -- by choice, etc.

The point is that those are choices. I am well conscious of "untenable" and also know that if you put everything on the table, things are more tenable than most people think. It's like the family at JZ's hospital that she talked about who had the child whose heart condition made him suffer at high altitudes. They needed to move, but they wouldn't because they'd lose close family ties. I think that's a poor balancing of all the priorities. They thought it was untenable - but it really wasn't.


beth b - Mar 14, 2005 10:30:52 am PST #7097 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I am a major public school advocate. however, I can think of a number of people who don't fit the mold. Takeing a cild out for a year - like ouise- sounds like a good stratagy. and I can think of a number of high school students ( my DH was one) that are self motivated kids , that get stiffled in the high school program. When there are things like sudden drops in grades - there are reasons. But there are kids that do the opposite. a friends's oldest never did well in school. he is now in a high school with a block system - that means he is only has three classes at anyone time. Which works better for him.


erikaj - Mar 14, 2005 10:32:39 am PST #7098 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

I think all parents have to say about school at some point : "Yes, they teach that at school. But I think it's important you learn this..." Or is that because I was little crippled child hippie-spawn?


Almare - Mar 14, 2005 10:32:45 am PST #7099 of 10002
"My drink preference does not indicate my sexual preference. "

Awwwwww.

I have returned.... how's Ginger?

Como esta el povre gringo che necesita ajuda?


Nutty - Mar 14, 2005 10:34:21 am PST #7100 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

As for the religious whackjobs -- if your agenda is (mostly) the one in charge, well, of course keep your kids in public education.

Well, there's something to be said for being familiar with the mainstream -- and knowing when you're in it and when you're not. I haev nothing but pity for the kids who grow up in small-town Kansas, learning bad science about evolution, and then arrive at college ready to major in biology, only to find they may need remedial classes.

It's one thing to learn X, and then say, "I don't agree with X" or "I don't want to study X" or "I want to eradicate X from all our lives"; but it's another thing entirely not to have any exposure to X in the first place.

Signed,
hated mushrooms on sight till many years later, when I was convinced to try them and realized I liked them a lot.


Steph L. - Mar 14, 2005 10:36:09 am PST #7101 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

The point is that those are choices.

God, I've typed and deleted 3 different responses to this, and they're all devolving into defensiveness and serious anger on my part.

I'm not feeling well today; I'm getting a cold, and I feel feverish. So I'm not going to let loose with unwarranted anger, here.

I just want to note this: yes, those *are* choices, but sometimes, Hec, you come across as though the only correct choice is the one that you support. But really, there's often more than one correct choice.

That's all. I'm going to disengage until I'm less bombarded by Germs O' Doom.


§ ita § - Mar 14, 2005 10:36:23 am PST #7102 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think all parents have to say about school at some point : "Yes, they teach that at school. But I think it's important you learn this..."

Don't you think there's a breaking point? When you have to keep explaining to little Sammy why the way his teachers and the kids he wants to be his friends have such divergent viewpoints from his?

I had it aggravating enough trying to be non-Christian in a Jamaican school. In England, I had a teacher go to bat for me to be able to avoid the Christian ceremonies.

Small freaking potatoes, because except for one creationism incident, the actual lessons didn't diverge from home values very much.

That doesn't mean it's not huge for some people, even if they hold viewpoints with which I disagree mightily -- how do you convince a child to hold your values and put others down on tests?