Let's think more along the lines of Sesame St. to Muppet Show.
Except Jim Henson is dead.
He was the Joss of kid's TV.
Also? Elmo has totally ruined Sesame Street.
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DavidS - Mar 02, 2005 9:12:24 am PST #3395 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Sean K - Mar 02, 2005 9:12:52 am PST #3396 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
I always thought Animaniacs was a good general audience show. Entertaining for kids, but a sizable chunk of the jokes were aimed squarely at adults.
And I agree that Henson is a very good example of doing it well.
Topic!Cindy - Mar 02, 2005 9:13:58 am PST #3397 of 10002
What is even happening?
I want something with no violence, no profanity, and no overt sexual situations. I think some good stories can be told without any of those. But I want it to be smart and interesting, and actual good story, as opposed to barely tolerable.
I didn't see Phantom Menace or the Clone thing, but is it any less of the above than the first three Stars Wars films that were released--originally? I thought it just sucked. I didn't think it was less violent/crude.
Topic!Cindy - Mar 02, 2005 9:15:08 am PST #3398 of 10002
What is even happening?
I'm not even thinking kids shows. I don't want a JH show. I'm thinking Waltons, Little House, Happy Days, Cosby--those kind of shows, you could watch with your kid, and possibly enjoy.
§ ita § - Mar 02, 2005 9:15:40 am PST #3399 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Elmo has totally ruined Sesame Street.
Except for kids, apparently.
Trudy Booth - Mar 02, 2005 9:16:01 am PST #3400 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Elmo is a punk and Henson is spinning in his grave.
Oh, I added Fraggle Rock up there. Its yet another transition.
Sean K - Mar 02, 2005 9:23:04 am PST #3401 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
I'm thinking Waltons, Little House, Happy Days, Cosby--
I liked Happy Days, but the rest of those tended to put me to sleep.
Scrappy - Mar 02, 2005 9:23:52 am PST #3402 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
Cosby, especially the early seasons, was Fun-nee.
Sean K - Mar 02, 2005 9:25:37 am PST #3403 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Okay, I liked early-seasons Cosby too. But Waltons and Little House are the two biggest examples of boring TV I remember from my childhood.
Topic!Cindy - Mar 02, 2005 9:26:00 am PST #3404 of 10002
What is even happening?