Wesley: And how does your kind define love? Demon: Same as all bodies. Same as everywheres. Love is sacrifice.

'The Girl in Question'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - Feb 25, 2005 10:46:34 am PST #1264 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I still don't see why the child should suffer.

She's a doctor. The child's not at risk of growing up poor. S/he's at risk of having a batshit crazy mother with no sense of ethics, but s/he won't starve.

I don't see how any argument can be made that sperm ejaculated into a condom has been "given" to the other party to do with as s/he chooses. The whole point of a condom is to prevent that kind of transfer of ownership.


Nutty - Feb 25, 2005 10:47:24 am PST #1265 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

To elaborate on DX's point, and my point about kleenex in the trash, I can totally imagine a new, gymnastic form of extortion -- because, I mean, if you're gonna dig through trash, you might as well dig through the trash of really rich people, right?

The number of people who have babies for a wrong reason -- to save a marriage, to "have something of my own," "because all my friends are doing it". It's not that much of a stretch for the truly scummy of this earth to achieve pregnancy in order to cash in in court.


-t - Feb 25, 2005 10:47:42 am PST #1266 of 10002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I re-read the article and there's no mention of a condom. I'm having trouble imagining the alleged scenario without it, but that's my limitation.


Kristen - Feb 25, 2005 10:49:34 am PST #1267 of 10002

I'm having reouble imagining the alleged scenario without it, but that's my limitation.

Tupperware container stashed under the bed. For ease of spitting.


Jessica - Feb 25, 2005 10:50:05 am PST #1268 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I re-read the article and there's no mention of a condom. I'm having trouble imagining the alleged scenario without it, but that's my limitation.

Hmm...I'd say that makes his version of events seem more suspect, but it doesn't change my opinion that if he's telling the truth, he shouldn't have any parental responsibilities.


Rick - Feb 25, 2005 10:53:08 am PST #1269 of 10002

In a few more years it should be possible to fertilize an egg with DNA taken from a cell other than a germ (i.e. sperm) cell . That would imply that any DNA a guy leaves around (skin, hair, saliva) could be used to turn him into a "father."

That will open up this controversy a bit. I mean, he is the father, right?


Calli - Feb 25, 2005 10:54:59 am PST #1270 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

In a few more years it should be possible to fertilize an egg with DNA taken from a cell other than a germ (i.e. sperm) cell . That would imply that any DNA a guy leaves around (skin, hair, saliva) could be used to turn him into a "father."

Heck, with that sort of technology, the cells anyone leaves around could turn him or her into a "father".

Guess I'd better get my dandruff under control if I want to keep my blissfully childfree lifestyle.


Nutty - Feb 25, 2005 10:55:24 am PST #1271 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

That will open up this controversy a bit. I mean, he is the father, right?

No, Rick, I think that is the first step towards our engineering men out of the species entirely.

Curses! You made me expose our evil plan before its time!


JohnSweden - Feb 25, 2005 10:58:35 am PST #1272 of 10002
I can't even.

That will open up this controversy a bit. I mean, he is the father, right?

Looks like the jobs of the people at 1-800-whosthedad just got a bit more complicated. Society is going to need some indication of consent, not just yup, that's his/her dna.

Watch for CSI: Conception starring Dennis Franz, coming soon to a skanky channel near you! (Has to be on FOX, right?)


§ ita § - Feb 25, 2005 11:02:18 am PST #1273 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Nutty, if you have intent of getting rid of men, we're going to need to throw down. In a squash court, if you insist.