Whoops - came back to move my post but it was gone. About what Robin said, though.
You know, my big sister could really beat the crap out of her. I mean, really really.
Dawn ,'Storyteller'
Natter 33 1/3
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
brenda m - Feb 25, 2005 9:16:15 am PST #1230 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Nutty - Feb 25, 2005 9:20:24 am PST #1231 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
I know that, in old-fashioned systems of "science", the spleen was very important in the manufacture of rage. So, by losing her spleen, your friend may become a calmer person!
(I knew a kid in 7th grade who had a bike accident and surgery similar to what Robin describes. He came through fine, and did not have a personality change, either.)
lisah - Feb 25, 2005 9:21:56 am PST #1232 of 10002
Punishingly Intricate
Frankenbuddha, I hope your friend recovers quickly. When I was a little kid my cousin (who was an adult) had to have his spleen removed. He was fine and is still going strong. My main memory of it was that I decided for some reason that the spleen was in your thigh. I have no idea what made me think this. But I held on to the belief for years!
§ ita § - Feb 25, 2005 9:23:25 am PST #1233 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
But if your lose your spleen, where will the magic go?
Frankenbuddha - Feb 25, 2005 9:24:06 am PST #1234 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
So like a Gall Bladder then, or slightly more useful? But not a liver or a pancreas (the pancreas is a required organ too, right) and not as expendable as the appendix (which is a waste of the little space it takes).
Whew, that's good to know. Sounds like if she's out of ICU she should be OK.
brenda m - Feb 25, 2005 9:24:08 am PST #1235 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
I know that, in old-fashioned systems of "science", the spleen was very important in the manufacture of rage. So, by losing her spleen, your friend may become a calmer person!
Ooh, that would make me so mad!
Except I couldn't get mad.
Which would make me even madder!
Analysis: Spleen is v. important in the prevention of head explosion.
Frankenbuddha - Feb 25, 2005 9:25:00 am PST #1236 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
But if your lose your spleen, where will the magic go?
To Allyson, I'd assume.
sarameg - Feb 25, 2005 9:35:37 am PST #1237 of 10002
Venting your spleen. Full of bile. Gee, the moderately disposable organs are a pretty pissy bunch. Probably resentful of the more necessary ones. They probably get mocked by the heart cruelly. Everyone leaves the appendix alone, though. I guess they deem it so completely useless as to be pitiful.
I'm glad your friend is doing better, Frank.
In other news, I hate computers. Stupid windows tricks. And I'm not even using a PC!!
§ ita § - Feb 25, 2005 9:37:54 am PST #1238 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Gee, the moderately disposable organs area pretty pissy bunch. Probably resentful of the more necessary ones.
Liver, spleen, lungs and bile -- the four humours.
Lungs get phlegmatic -- they're both necessary and pissy.
Topic!Cindy - Feb 25, 2005 9:39:50 am PST #1239 of 10002
What is even happening?
The point is, in the normal world, oral sex does not lead to pregnancy. There is no causality in the act of oral sex that makes a pregnancy; it requires further action, unrelated to the original sex act, for that to happen.What's the adage? Possession is nine-tenths of the law. In today's world, giving control of semen to another party does sometimes result in the recipient using the semen for conception which happens divorced from the act of sexual intercourse.
If the scenario I'm describing is hinky-but-legal, then the pawing through the trash is the next logical step, innit?Because I think the man should pay child support does not mean I think the woman's actions are blameless. Whether or not what she did is legal, that child is his as well as hers.
Over the years, how many men have complained about paying child support, because they didn't want "that woman" living off of them? Child support is for the child. If, in this case, the woman did what the man alleges, as I said before, I have no problem with him suing her. Whether or not her actions were legal does not change the fact that there is a minor child in this world entitled to support. Why should the mother's actions/misdeeds/crimes terminate the child's right to support? The situation may be unfair, but why should the child bear the burden of that?
I mean, data-miners and expose reporters do it already, so I know that pawing through the trash for stuff you might want is not illegal. And if you do something with the stuff you want, and there are consequences...?I don't see how this analogy fits the situation. I am not trying to be difficult.
A child is entitled to parental support, whether mother lied about taking her pills, or forgot a pill, thought she was already through with menopause, or her tubal ligation/his vasectomy failed, or she got out the turkey baster. The child is entitled to parental support whether the father thought he was sterile and wasn't, or knew he was fertile but lied, or poked a hole in the rubber.
The child support is not for the care and feeding of the custodial parent, and shouldn't be based on the parents' actions. It is for the care and feeding of the child, regardless of which, or whether either biological contributor wanted the child.