Overwhelming? How much more than whelming would that be exactly?

Anya ,'Touched'


The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 17, 2005 3:08:56 pm PDT #3202 of 10001
What is even happening?

Well, the people closest to him called him Hubie. He was also an identical twin, which also has appeal, or at least gets a person noticed. But mostly he managed to be smart, funny and kind all at the same time, which is usually a 2 out of 3 deal at best, for most people.

He got around it by being a musician. That's always deadly.
Oh, yeah.


Susan W. - Jul 17, 2005 3:20:45 pm PDT #3203 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I do think Jack is a variation on the most simplistic or extreme Guido thing. Especially considering that his nicely-born heiress was married to an upper-class twit, and she's recovering with someone who isn't afraid of his own sexuality.

Just so long as it's duly noted that not only is Jack a better lover than Sebastian, he could spot him 30-40 points on an IQ test and still come out ahead. t g But yeah, I'm definitely playing with that trope a bit--there's the contrast between what they (and the reader) know to be a well-rounded relationship that's as much about true minds and kindred spirits as physical passion and what the world around them thinks they're about when their affair is discovered.


deborah grabien - Jul 17, 2005 3:30:16 pm PDT #3204 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Just so long as it's duly noted that not only is Jack a better lover than Sebastian, he could spot him 30-40 points on an IQ test and still come out ahead. But yeah, I'm definitely playing with that trope a bit--there's the contrast between what they (and the reader) know to be a well-rounded relationship that's as much about true minds and kindred spirits as physical passion and what the world around them thinks they're about when their affair is discovered.

There, of course, you're getting into the territory that keeps me prickly: the idea that the woman mustn't actually enjoy the sex.

Note to historians:

Girls like orgasms. Orgasms are fun. You'll get my multiple orgasms when you pry them from my cold dead -

Never mind.


erikaj - Jul 17, 2005 3:32:07 pm PDT #3205 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

If they do that, it's time to call paraphilia, no?


Topic!Cindy - Jul 17, 2005 3:55:14 pm PDT #3206 of 10001
What is even happening?

Deb, you made me choke. Hee!


Beverly - Jul 17, 2005 7:48:28 pm PDT #3207 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Sheldon or Hubert or Clive. Just - no. Never happen.

Beg to differ.


sfmarty - Jul 17, 2005 8:09:13 pm PDT #3208 of 10001
Who? moi??

Beverly, I was just about to say Clive Owen. That is a nifty (cough, cough) picture.


Allyson - Jul 17, 2005 8:32:57 pm PDT #3209 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I think ima have to pull an allnighter to complete an essay and get everything together.

I have chugged a latte with an extra shot, I'm wearing comfy jammies, I have a full pack of smokes, and goddamn am I pissed that my real job is getting in the way of the job I really want.


deborah grabien - Jul 17, 2005 8:44:30 pm PDT #3210 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Allyson, bebe, go get 'em. Draw blood, honey.

Bev, I missed the Clive Owen meeting, but if you want to substitute Nigel for Clive in the "unmoanable names" category, I'm down with that...


Beverly - Jul 17, 2005 8:52:05 pm PDT #3211 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Go, Allyson!

I cribbed the Owen shot off ita's site. Where she also has many shots of Mr. Firth, just to give equal time to a nummy treat for you.