I've met them in rl. But they didn't think of me "that way" either. I have sort of a cross of the power/ Guido when I think dirty things about Tony Soprano.
Gunn: You saying popping mama threw you a beating? Lorne: Kid Vicious did the heavy lifting. Cordy just mwah-ha-ha'd at us.
'Underneath'
The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...
A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.
erikaj - Jul 17, 2005 12:04:30 pm PDT #3192 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!
Topic!Cindy - Jul 17, 2005 1:23:50 pm PDT #3193 of 10001
What is even happening?
IRL, I would probably shy away from the nobles for any number of reasons.Yeah, like the clap.
In general, maybe, but not really the version I'm writing--Jack just doesn't fit the Guido complex mold at all.No. He's the smart Mick on the make, in a 30s/40s movie, who the debutante falls head over heels for. An equally, albeit differently sexy equiv. to the Guido.
erikaj - Jul 17, 2005 1:30:27 pm PDT #3194 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!
Ooh, It Happened One Night Very hot. Even if now I like my heroes to be beat-up and self-destructive. Jam Clark's fingers in a roadster door and I'm still on board!
Topic!Cindy - Jul 17, 2005 1:32:04 pm PDT #3195 of 10001
What is even happening?
Exactly. I don't know if it's statistic or urban legend, but supposedly, the sale of men's undershirts plummeted after that film was released, and Gable wasn't wearing one, when he took off his shirt.
deborah grabien - Jul 17, 2005 1:35:50 pm PDT #3196 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.
Yes, indeed. Sorry, Susan - I do think Jack is a variation on the most simplistic or extreme Guido thing. Especially considering that his nicely-born heiress was married to an upper-class twit, and she's recovering with someone who isn't afraid of his own sexuality.
edit: and the whole deal with the nice refined lady getting to be unladylike with a "just shut up and make my eyes roll back in my head eighteen times, ok?" buck who has a job that involves cutting metal with fire, or pounding hot rivets into building girders? Is that there's no emotional requirement, and it's uncomplicated. That's the Guido at its most extreme and also at its most basic.
Doesn't apply to Jack, obviously. But I do think there's a secret lingering suspicion amongst a lot of women that the Big Dumb Stallion type is going to be way the hell more vigorous in bed.
You know? As opposed to someone whose last three sets of ancestors were all related to each other before marriage, who has no visible chin, and who has the name "Smedley" in there somewhere.
sfmarty - Jul 17, 2005 2:29:24 pm PDT #3197 of 10001
Who? moi??
Good bio, Allyson. I agree with the comments Deb made about the two sentences. Send it in.
erikaj - Jul 17, 2005 2:34:58 pm PDT #3198 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!
Oh, no doubt, Deb. "Nobody had great sex with a Sheldon. It's the name...if you want somebody to fill your teeth or do your taxes, Sheldon's your guy. But nobody ever said "Ride me like a stallion, Sheldon." "When Harry Met Sally"
deborah grabien - Jul 17, 2005 2:57:43 pm PDT #3199 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.
Heh. Sheldon or Hubert or Clive. Just - no. Never happen.
Topic!Cindy - Jul 17, 2005 3:00:21 pm PDT #3200 of 10001
What is even happening?
My father's name was Hubert. However, I don't think it was a problem for him. His father used to call him the "Stud of [where they lived]". Of course, people called him Mac as often as anything else, and he was in Navy, and then a carpenter, and a 6 foot, blue-eyed blond, so there were other factors at work.
deborah grabien - Jul 17, 2005 3:06:29 pm PDT #3201 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.
Mac
See? He needed a nickname.
And I speak from experience, lest you feel wounded. My own father was an Oscar. He got around it by being a musician. That's always deadly.