She's not just a blob of energy, she's also a 14-year-old hormone bomb.

Spike ,'The Killer In Me'


The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


deborah grabien - Jul 17, 2005 3:30:16 pm PDT #3204 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Just so long as it's duly noted that not only is Jack a better lover than Sebastian, he could spot him 30-40 points on an IQ test and still come out ahead. But yeah, I'm definitely playing with that trope a bit--there's the contrast between what they (and the reader) know to be a well-rounded relationship that's as much about true minds and kindred spirits as physical passion and what the world around them thinks they're about when their affair is discovered.

There, of course, you're getting into the territory that keeps me prickly: the idea that the woman mustn't actually enjoy the sex.

Note to historians:

Girls like orgasms. Orgasms are fun. You'll get my multiple orgasms when you pry them from my cold dead -

Never mind.


erikaj - Jul 17, 2005 3:32:07 pm PDT #3205 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

If they do that, it's time to call paraphilia, no?


Topic!Cindy - Jul 17, 2005 3:55:14 pm PDT #3206 of 10001
What is even happening?

Deb, you made me choke. Hee!


Beverly - Jul 17, 2005 7:48:28 pm PDT #3207 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Sheldon or Hubert or Clive. Just - no. Never happen.

Beg to differ.


sfmarty - Jul 17, 2005 8:09:13 pm PDT #3208 of 10001
Who? moi??

Beverly, I was just about to say Clive Owen. That is a nifty (cough, cough) picture.


Allyson - Jul 17, 2005 8:32:57 pm PDT #3209 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I think ima have to pull an allnighter to complete an essay and get everything together.

I have chugged a latte with an extra shot, I'm wearing comfy jammies, I have a full pack of smokes, and goddamn am I pissed that my real job is getting in the way of the job I really want.


deborah grabien - Jul 17, 2005 8:44:30 pm PDT #3210 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Allyson, bebe, go get 'em. Draw blood, honey.

Bev, I missed the Clive Owen meeting, but if you want to substitute Nigel for Clive in the "unmoanable names" category, I'm down with that...


Beverly - Jul 17, 2005 8:52:05 pm PDT #3211 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Go, Allyson!

I cribbed the Owen shot off ita's site. Where she also has many shots of Mr. Firth, just to give equal time to a nummy treat for you.


deborah grabien - Jul 17, 2005 9:00:45 pm PDT #3212 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Looking at Mr. Owen again, I appear to be missing some sort of girly gene - might be the same one that would find Orlando Bloom sexy.

Mr. Firth, OTOH, and his laughlines and grin - well, now.


Lyra Jane - Jul 18, 2005 4:19:07 am PDT #3213 of 10001
Up with the sun

I appear to be missing some sort of girly gene - might be the same one that would find Orlando Bloom sexy.

Nah. Clive Owen is more the ordinary-roughhewn-bloke-but-better type, and Orlando is the he-only-looks-innocent woobie type. (Clive does nothing for me, incidentally. Orlando? Mmmm.)