Mal: Hell, this job I would pull for free. Zoe: Can I have your share? Mal: No. Zoe: If you die, can I have your share? Mal: Yes.

'The Train Job'


The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


SailAweigh - May 10, 2005 4:56:12 pm PDT #2025 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I don't think I'm anywhere close to getting the hang of Hemingway. So, I'll just do more of what I seem to be good at, the overblown adverbs.

Just The Way You Look, Tonight

Oh, the pain! The pain of it all!

How can one man survive the pinpoints of despair that pierce the brain and heart? What aching shards of agonizing regret is there to rue?

Oh, pain, hurt me not so grievously!

If only I had spoken falsely. If I’d spoken sweet words of deception and turned her wrath, what surcease!

But I told. And the pain! Oh, the pain!

Nothing can save me now! I’m doomed to eternal torment, bound to the rocks with vultures to tear my skin and pierce my flesh.

“No, dear, it doesn’t make you look fat.”


deborah grabien - May 10, 2005 6:10:01 pm PDT #2026 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

muHA!

(tangent) You know, I've never quite understood why anyone would ask whether something looked shitty and then been upset with a truthful answer. If I ask that question, I expect a truthdul answer.

How did that stereotype get started? Does anyone know?


SailAweigh - May 10, 2005 6:17:57 pm PDT #2027 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Not a clue, Deb. I'm sure it's been around since cavemen first started wearing animal skins.


deborah grabien - May 10, 2005 6:27:26 pm PDT #2028 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

I'm sure it's been around since cavemen first started wearing animal skins.

Yes, but that presupposes that some cavewoman put on a mastodon miniskirt, asked if she looked fat in it, was told yes, and then beaned Thag with a sabre tooth jawbone or something.

My real bewilderment is at the idea that it got started because some women prefer to be lied to. Dude. Do I want to go out in something that makes me look like a tuba in stilettos? IOW, if I wanted to be lied to, why would I ask?

Never mind. I'm a freak, possibly.


SailAweigh - May 10, 2005 6:37:58 pm PDT #2029 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Do I want to go out in something that makes me look like a tuba in stilettos? IOW, if I wanted to be lied to, why would I ask?

Because some women have absolutely no judgement about what looks good on them. They buy the most godawful stuff and then seek reassurance that they made the right choice. Personally, I tell the truth. If they can't handle it, they shouldn't have asked me.


Susan W. - May 10, 2005 6:50:35 pm PDT #2030 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I tell the truth if the questioner and I are in her room trying to decide what she should wear. I lie if we're about to walk into the party and it's too late to change anything.


deborah grabien - May 10, 2005 6:56:52 pm PDT #2031 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Because some women have absolutely no judgement about what looks good on them.

That part, I get.

They buy the most godawful stuff and then seek reassurance that they made the right choice.

That part, I missed. If they know their judgment sucks - and I assume they have some clue about it, since they're asking for reassurance - wouldn't they take someone they trusted shopping with them in the first place?

Personally, I tell the truth. If they can't handle it, they shouldn't have asked me.

So do I. But I'm a whole nother deal from asking the man she supposedly trusts to not let her make a fool of herself by wearing something that looks like ass on toast points in public, and then punishing him for doing precisely that.

Do a lot of women do that? When did it become a stereotype? I'm puzzled by it, and I do mean puzzled.


deborah grabien - May 10, 2005 6:58:12 pm PDT #2032 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

I tell the truth if the questioner and I are in her room trying to decide what she should wear. I lie if we're about to walk into the party and it's too late to change anything.

Yes, I get that - but see above. You aren't her soul mate and the man she trusts to not lie to her.

I'm confused.


§ ita § - May 10, 2005 6:59:03 pm PDT #2033 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Maybe her definition of soulmate is the man she trusts to know just when to lie to her.


SailAweigh - May 10, 2005 7:02:30 pm PDT #2034 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Deb, I think the problem is with the women's priorities in what they want out of a mate. They may value honesty, but they place a higher value on the man's ability to make them feel attractive. So, they put the poor schmuck in a bind of "which does she want tonight, honesty or comfort?"