May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Mal ,'Bushwhacked'


The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


deborah grabien - May 03, 2005 7:59:49 am PDT #1681 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Susan, it isn't witing backward; you just need a specific thing from the work you give out for beta reading, and it looks to be different from what I need, or maybe Allyson or Teppy needs. And by the by, I don't consider the long, convoluted sentence thing to be a grammar issue; it's a crafting issue to me. As for typos, that doesn't arise in a real life setting; I'm reading aloud, they're listening.


erikaj - May 03, 2005 8:00:41 am PDT #1682 of 10001
I'm a fucking amazing catch!--Fiona Gallagher, Shameless(US)

When I first write things, I suspect they come out as if spoken, much of the time, hence the fragments. Now I hate it because I have to clean it up.


Allyson - May 03, 2005 8:01:33 am PDT #1683 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I don't consider the long, convoluted sentence thing to be a grammar issue; it's a crafting issue to me.

Yes. This. It's one of my bigger weaknesses as a writer. Many commas, and not a period to be found for inches.


Betsy HP - May 03, 2005 8:04:09 am PDT #1684 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Furthermore, "I have no idea what this sentence means" (which I have been known to write on close friends' betas) is absolutely a craft issue.


Susan W. - May 03, 2005 8:05:58 am PDT #1685 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I just thought you didn't like my stuff and did what you could to help.

Not at all! I loved your stuff, which is why all I did to the piece you sent me was suggest rewordings, because I thought it was already wonderful and all I could do was offer ways to polish and tighten it a bit to make it sing even more.


deborah grabien - May 03, 2005 8:06:29 am PDT #1686 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

It's one of my bigger weaknesses as a writer. Many commas, and not a period to be found for inches.

If so, you're in very good company. I get just as twitchy with hyper-short sentences as I do with the convoluted ones.

Also, personal peeve: the "cut every possible thing out, it's all fat anyway" school. Dudes, get over it, you are not Sir Thomas Malory and you aren't writing "Le Morte d'Arthur", and three-word sentences that dangle like limp genitalia make me want to forcefeed your frontal lobes with words. Half the time, the writer is cutting muscle and bone.


erikaj - May 03, 2005 8:06:41 am PDT #1687 of 10001
I'm a fucking amazing catch!--Fiona Gallagher, Shameless(US)

Yeah. I have a few of those...hopefully I fixed them.ETA: What does this mean? type sentences. As I write crime, maybe I want my sentences to be too short, too.


deborah grabien - May 03, 2005 8:08:45 am PDT #1688 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Heh. I just don't get how and when and where and why the idea that taking a complete thought of fifteen words, and deciding that it reads better as four tiny incomplete sentences, became so desirable.

Truth to tell, I go red-pen manic over those, unless they're rare, and in dialogue.


Betsy HP - May 03, 2005 8:09:47 am PDT #1689 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

This is why every writer has, at one time or another, been tempted to buy a rubber stamp that reads "Stet".


erikaj - May 03, 2005 8:10:40 am PDT #1690 of 10001
I'm a fucking amazing catch!--Fiona Gallagher, Shameless(US)

They think they're being staccato, Tarentino, and edgy, Deb.