I'll be fine. I'll be your bounty, Jubal Early. And I'll just fade away.

River ,'Objects In Space'


The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Connie Neil - May 03, 2005 7:52:19 am PDT #1676 of 10001
brillig

is it possible for " a long minute" to pass, since all minutes are, really, exactly the same length?

The minutes in the ER waiting room are much, much longer than the minutes lounging in bed next to the person you love.


Allyson - May 03, 2005 7:52:29 am PDT #1677 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Allyson, speaking of beta-reading, did I put my foot in it the other day by offering you a completely unasked for suggestion in my email to you? After I sent it, I felt like such a big mouth. Plus, not sure I stressed how much I really liked what I read.

Actually, I would have liked more suggestions/criticism! I was just feeling kind of awkward. I needed you to read it for permission, so I felt like I was forcing stuff on you.

Speaking of, I need to send to ita and Burrell, as well. But Burrell, she's a little busy, methinks.


Scrappy - May 03, 2005 7:54:53 am PDT #1678 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Send me as much as you want, Allyson! Maybe I can read it and then we can grab a bite together to discuss? That way I get the fun of reading AND I get to see you too!


Susan W. - May 03, 2005 7:56:36 am PDT #1679 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Susan, it's not backwards--it's just a different process. That's what makes writing an art, IMO.

See my edit--I'm not planning to change my process for my own writing. I just had no idea that it was unhelpful and perhaps even offensive to others, because I didn't know it was unusual.


Allyson - May 03, 2005 7:58:13 am PDT #1680 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Send me as much as you want, Allyson! Maybe I can read it and then we can grab a bite together to discuss? That way I get the fun of reading AND I get to see you too!

Whoooot!!! That would be grrrreat!

I just had no idea that it was unhelpful and perhaps even offensive to others, because I didn't know it was unusual.

I wasn't offended, Susan. I just thought you didn't like my stuff and did what you could to help.


deborah grabien - May 03, 2005 7:59:49 am PDT #1681 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Susan, it isn't witing backward; you just need a specific thing from the work you give out for beta reading, and it looks to be different from what I need, or maybe Allyson or Teppy needs. And by the by, I don't consider the long, convoluted sentence thing to be a grammar issue; it's a crafting issue to me. As for typos, that doesn't arise in a real life setting; I'm reading aloud, they're listening.


erikaj - May 03, 2005 8:00:41 am PDT #1682 of 10001
I'm a fucking amazing catch!--Fiona Gallagher, Shameless(US)

When I first write things, I suspect they come out as if spoken, much of the time, hence the fragments. Now I hate it because I have to clean it up.


Allyson - May 03, 2005 8:01:33 am PDT #1683 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I don't consider the long, convoluted sentence thing to be a grammar issue; it's a crafting issue to me.

Yes. This. It's one of my bigger weaknesses as a writer. Many commas, and not a period to be found for inches.


Betsy HP - May 03, 2005 8:04:09 am PDT #1684 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Furthermore, "I have no idea what this sentence means" (which I have been known to write on close friends' betas) is absolutely a craft issue.


Susan W. - May 03, 2005 8:05:58 am PDT #1685 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I just thought you didn't like my stuff and did what you could to help.

Not at all! I loved your stuff, which is why all I did to the piece you sent me was suggest rewordings, because I thought it was already wonderful and all I could do was offer ways to polish and tighten it a bit to make it sing even more.