I have no input on yelling, except that I seem to do it a lot.

I (1) am home sick with a cold, drinking hot beverages; and (2) want this t-shirt: [link]

But I want to know why, and in a life filled with other things, I don't have the patience to wait years to find out what the use of what I've been learning is.

This very thought cured me of an aikido fantasy years ago.

This conversation has really got me thinking about what I'm so afraid of in myself. Someone else yelling at me can have only the effect I allow it to. So what am I expecting?

I'll look foolish? Well. That's assured. So why bother worrying about it?

Someone will be angry with me? In this context, unlikely and even if...so what?

I might unleash something unexpected in myself? Now that bears scrutiny.

Someone else yelling at me can have only the effect I allow it to. So what am I expecting?

That's a very interesting question.

Not even where the teacher knows something you really want to know?

Not if it's a gung-ho, everyone-get-excited type of situation. Teacher to scholar is a different situation. Whenever my college instructors tried the "let's get excited about this!" techniques, I rolled my eyes and waited till they done and got back to business. The teachers I liked best obviously enjoyed their subject, were enthusiastic about the class learning it, but managed not to let the class devolve into a motivational speaker type circus.

I equate quiet, but serious voices with authority, not yelling.

I also enjoy cheering--be it sports events or someone cheering me on to do something. I like loud encouragement when I'm attempting a physical task, too.

I've also been known to sound my barbaric yawp.

But it could be that I'm just a loud person in general.

Not if it's a gung-ho, everyone-get-excited type of situation

I'm guessing you're not interested in learning things where being animated is part of the point, then?

I'm guessing you're not interested in learning things where being animated is part of the point, then?

I'm guessing you're missing my point.

I'm guessing you're missing my point.

Then help me out -- I still don't know what method works on you when an instructor needs you animated, vigourous, since setting an example isn't it.

But you cheer at sporting events, don't you? You aren't trying to motivate the players so much as create an atmosphere of heightened energy and I think this is directly analogous. You don't want golf claps at a soccer goal.

I'm off to sign up for krav.

How great is it to have a place like this to work stuff out?

After this dialogue, I'm inspired to go do the yelling thing precisely because I thought I could not.

What have I got to lose?

Except maybe a tooth, which just means I need to perfect my evasive action skilz.