Not even where the teacher knows something you really want to know?

Not if it's a gung-ho, everyone-get-excited type of situation. Teacher to scholar is a different situation. Whenever my college instructors tried the "let's get excited about this!" techniques, I rolled my eyes and waited till they done and got back to business. The teachers I liked best obviously enjoyed their subject, were enthusiastic about the class learning it, but managed not to let the class devolve into a motivational speaker type circus.

I equate quiet, but serious voices with authority, not yelling.

I also enjoy cheering--be it sports events or someone cheering me on to do something. I like loud encouragement when I'm attempting a physical task, too.

I've also been known to sound my barbaric yawp.

But it could be that I'm just a loud person in general.

Not if it's a gung-ho, everyone-get-excited type of situation

I'm guessing you're not interested in learning things where being animated is part of the point, then?

I'm guessing you're not interested in learning things where being animated is part of the point, then?

I'm guessing you're missing my point.

I'm guessing you're missing my point.

Then help me out -- I still don't know what method works on you when an instructor needs you animated, vigourous, since setting an example isn't it.

But you cheer at sporting events, don't you? You aren't trying to motivate the players so much as create an atmosphere of heightened energy and I think this is directly analogous. You don't want golf claps at a soccer goal.

I'm off to sign up for krav.

How great is it to have a place like this to work stuff out?

After this dialogue, I'm inspired to go do the yelling thing precisely because I thought I could not.

What have I got to lose?

Except maybe a tooth, which just means I need to perfect my evasive action skilz.

But you cheer at sporting events, don't you?

Don't normally go to sporting events. I find most sports pretty pointless. When I do, I give the occasional Yay, or even an enthusiastic Yes! when I'm feeling giddy.

what method works on you when an instructor needs you animated, vigourous, since setting an example isn't it?

Intellectual engagement. If my mind isn't interested first, all the physical enthusiasm in the world isn't going to do any good. If I'm there, I'm generally interested, so I don't need jump-started.

Intellectual engagement.

Even if it's not an intellectual pursuit? That's why I'm thinking that something whose point is short-circuiting past the intellect is half the point wouldn't be your cup of tea.

Or does an overarching intellectual interest suffice to get you to throw your brain out the window and work on reflexes.

Someone else yelling at me can have only the effect I allow it to. So what am I expecting?

That's a very interesting question.

In my life, yelling has generally meant violence is coming. Yelling with profanity has meant violence is here. Neither are conducive states for learning for me. I'll react, and I may even react in a desired fashion, but I probably won't retain anything. I have and will push myself past my limitations, usually with an understanding of the goal and encouragement.

This is not to say I wouldn't enjoy Krav or the teaching method, not having seen it in action. I probably would.