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Spike's Bitches 22: You've got Angel breath  

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Cashmere - Feb 17, 2005 1:01:43 am PST #1574 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

sending the ma for connie and her DH.

Maria, looks like we need to have a talking-to with TPTB. They need to stop fucking with you.

Good job, vw!


Topic!Cindy - Feb 17, 2005 1:17:23 am PST #1575 of 10001
What is even happening?

Connie & DH, much health and peace to you both.

Cashmere, how's your mom?


-t - Feb 17, 2005 2:05:14 am PST #1576 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

{{Maria}}

Starting the ~ma flow Utah-wards now, it should be nice and steady by 6:30 Mountain.


vw bug - Feb 17, 2005 2:21:13 am PST #1577 of 10001
Mostly lurking...

Sending more ~ma towards Utah.


vw bug - Feb 17, 2005 2:42:18 am PST #1578 of 10001
Mostly lurking...

Also, I could use some ~ma myself today. My friend J has asked me to go with her to her house to get some of her stuff. This wouldn't be such a big deal, but her husband is insisting that he has to be there, because she may steal stuff (from her own house?). There may be a chance that we get there and the locks have been changed. I am in a good place right now, but I'm not sure what would happen if I was part of or watching an abusive situation. So, just send some calm~ma - that everyone will be calm and let J and I just be in and out of the house in about 1/2 hour so we can go sit and relax with some coffee.


-t - Feb 17, 2005 2:51:08 am PST #1579 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Much ~ma, vw. You're a good friend to help her out like this. I hope your presence helps keep everyone calm.


Topic!Cindy - Feb 17, 2005 3:00:00 am PST #1580 of 10001
What is even happening?

vw, you're a good friend to do this, but please take care of yourself. Don't try to get between them. Also--do you have a cell phone?


vw bug - Feb 17, 2005 3:03:49 am PST #1581 of 10001
Mostly lurking...

Don't try to get between them.

I'm not going to. I wasn't worried about this till *after* I agreed to do it. Of course, there were some developments yesterday that make us both suspect he's going to be less than friendly, so that has changed things a bit. So, I called and talked to my therapist about it last night, and we made a plan.

When J calls me this morning to make arrangments to meet, I'm going to tell her that I think that we need to have a plan in case things get out of hand. If they do, I think for both of our sakes, we need to just leave and then make other arrangments to get the stuff. It won't be good for either one of us to stay if there is some kind of confrontation.

Also--do you have a cell phone?

Yes. And I have no trouble using it to dial 911. I'll also be letting her know that.


Topic!Cindy - Feb 17, 2005 3:25:32 am PST #1582 of 10001
What is even happening?

Okay, that all sounds supremely sensible and I'll pretend I'm not try to stop worrying.


vw bug - Feb 17, 2005 3:29:39 am PST #1583 of 10001
Mostly lurking...

I'm sorry. I didn't mean to make anyone worry. To try to calm those worries a little more...he is not physically abusive...his abuse is entirely verbal and manipulation type (which is sometimes just as bad or maybe worse, but at least we're not in physical danger). Also, when I've been at the house before because J was not comfortable being alone, her husband has been very nice and neutral. Hopefully when he sees me that's how he'll be this time.