Very convincing. Makes me completely want to put myself under government control. Please take me to where you can make me unconscious and naked.

Riley ,'Help'


Spike's Bitches 22: You've got Angel breath  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Gudanov - Feb 16, 2005 12:23:39 pm PST #1503 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

Gud, if that came across as smartass, well (a) I hope it made you chuckle, and (b) all I really meant was, maybe you just need to read it, and see if you believe it, or if it's at least worth further investigation.

Honestly, I'm pretty much investigating for the sake of my wife. I haven't so much changed my beliefs as seen, with more exposure to the Chruch, Bible, and Christian literature, that I cannot call myself a Christian just because I was sort of raised in the Methodist chruch. Of course this leads to the oddness of having a Deist preparing church brochures and running the chruch's website, but I still want to support my wife even if I don't believe the same things.


Topic!Cindy - Feb 16, 2005 12:26:14 pm PST #1504 of 10001
What is even happening?

Is this something you want to have a conversation about, or are you just sort of venting?


Susan W. - Feb 16, 2005 12:27:18 pm PST #1505 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

t disappears to put in some billable time


Gudanov - Feb 16, 2005 12:27:46 pm PST #1506 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

I can't do much more than vent time-wise. Posting soaks up a lot of time.


Topic!Cindy - Feb 16, 2005 12:29:00 pm PST #1507 of 10001
What is even happening?

Hee. It does. It's a sponge. I am coming down with something, and so that was today's excuse for pouring so much time in here. Wonder what I'll come up with, tomorrow.


DavidS - Feb 16, 2005 12:29:29 pm PST #1508 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

(I already read 4 books to her every morning after first feeding and one at night.)

That's plenty. Way more than most kids get at that age.

I've been a parent for 8+ years now and it is my observation that most families (I know personlly) break down so that the mom does about 65%-85% of the parenting. So it's far from equitable. However, there are a whole lot of things that go with that. A lot of Moms I know, are gate-keepers in one way or another. They're possessive of the kids, you hear a lot of "You're not doing it right" and putting the dad in a position of First Assistant Parent. Also, far more many women than men do the Stay-at-home thang. Which is no picnic, but the option is often more available and culturally sanctioned.


Strix - Feb 16, 2005 12:29:43 pm PST #1509 of 10001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

One of my good friends was pretty much the stay at home dad for the first couple of years because his wife just made so much more money than him. He was brilliant at it, but I'm sure he got a lot of shit about it because they live in Southern Missouri. And he's a total dude's dude, so I can't imagine how much more shit he would have gotten from some of his caver friends (some of whom are complete liberals, some of whom are truly, living in the 19th century.)

So it's all this amazing thing when guys stay home with the kids, but women who do the same thing? Taken for granted.

ION, I totally fell down while leaving the school today. In front of about a zillion students, some of whom were mine, including one of the brattiest kids.

I fall down all the time, so one the one hand, I'm not embarassed, but on the other....it was my students! I looked like a drunk rodent!


Gudanov - Feb 16, 2005 12:31:31 pm PST #1510 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

Hee. It does.

Time is why I'm staying out of the parenting discussion. If I do too much posting, I won't get any work done.


DavidS - Feb 16, 2005 12:31:41 pm PST #1511 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I fall down all the time

Yeah, what's up with that Erin? I fall down maybe once a year. Sometimes not even.


Daisy Jane - Feb 16, 2005 12:34:46 pm PST #1512 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I think all those are pretty correct. Just not something I'd ever want and doing it the way I would want seems like taking on the extra job of reinventing the family, when I already had two full-time jobs. Which is why I look to families like my friend's sister and her wife and two kids. They're both moms, how do they divide raising the kids and having jobs? Actually, they don't have what I want because one of them does stay home. The other couple I know have a daughter, but she's fully grown and they both operate their own business together, so that's not really an option either.