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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Nutty - Feb 16, 2005 8:35:15 am PST #8134 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Jon, that's a nice theory, but I'm not sure that's how epilepsy works. I think it's pretty rare that a fit causes harm to anybody besides the person having it, and most of that harm is "dude, you tried to hold him down? Why?"

Still, elegant solution.

I'll be curious to see what putting Logan into CI does, because the whole skill of the D'Onofrio character is knowing vast numbers of esoteric facts (like, modern German art and how motorcycles work and basically, anything the plot needs him to know). Logan on the original L&O was smart, but not especially booksmart. Should be a totally different vibe, I should think.


msbelle - Feb 16, 2005 8:36:57 am PST #8135 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

you said totally different vibe - my brain went to Square Pegs - and now I want a Square Pegs 20 year High School Reunion Special!!!!!!


Scrappy - Feb 16, 2005 8:39:00 am PST #8136 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Has the CI aired yet which takes place among a group of goths (Or TV's version of goths, anyway)? They're a fan group for an Anne Rice type of writer. I was wondering if any actual goths saw it and what they thought.


DXMachina - Feb 16, 2005 8:39:59 am PST #8137 of 10002
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

you said totally different vibe - my brain went to Square Pegs - and now I want a Square Pegs 20 year High School Reunion Special!!!!!!

Except that Johnny Slash is dead.


brenda m - Feb 16, 2005 8:40:42 am PST #8138 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Zombie reunion!


Jon B. - Feb 16, 2005 8:41:15 am PST #8139 of 10002
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Nutty - did you watch last night's episode of VM? It was revealed that Duncan has "type 4"(?) epilepsy which is apparently a more violent variety. There was also a flashback where VM overheard Bishop and Knight talking in the bathroom about how Duncan had had some sort of freaky violent episode.


Vortex - Feb 16, 2005 8:42:17 am PST #8140 of 10002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Oh, my God. That ending killed me. I mean, OK, dramatically interesting, yada yada, but I don't know if I can take so much heartache when I'm supposed to be watching the show for entertainment.

I think that the reason why this killed me is that I can totally see myself in that situation -- falling for a long time friend, having a great relationship, managing to fuck it up in some way (my mother may or may not be involved), pushing too hard when he needs some time (oh boy, can I see myself doing that), asking for help, then regretting it. Yeah, that's me. Except I've never seen The Way We Were.


msbelle - Feb 16, 2005 8:42:59 am PST #8141 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Johnny's death could be addressed.


JZ - Feb 16, 2005 8:42:59 am PST #8142 of 10002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

It does happen, though, Nutty. I did a show once with a guy who tried to kill his mother during an epileptic fit. He and I worked closely together on a show that lasted almost six months all told, and some relatives of mine were close to his family and knew a lot of the family history and it's safe to say that this is NEVER, EVER something he would have done outside of a seizure. Non-seizure-y, he's a gentle affectionate puppydog of a man who is very loving toward and protective of his family (and not in a show-offy SNAGgy "Behold my marvelous sensitivity!" way, either; just because it's who he is). Seizure-y, he is someone else.

Admittedly it's rare and extreme, but Jon's theory, sadly, isn't that implausible.


§ ita § - Feb 16, 2005 8:43:49 am PST #8143 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Vortex, can you vague/spoilerfont that up a bit more?

I'm pretty sure we crossed the line last night, but I still need to go back and clean up.