And the thing is, I like my evil like I like my men: evil. You know, straight up, black hat, tied to the train tracks, soon my electro-ray will destroy metropolis BAD.

Buffy ,'Sleeper'


Natter 32 Flavors and Then Some  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


msbelle - Feb 16, 2005 8:36:57 am PST #8135 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

you said totally different vibe - my brain went to Square Pegs - and now I want a Square Pegs 20 year High School Reunion Special!!!!!!


Scrappy - Feb 16, 2005 8:39:00 am PST #8136 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Has the CI aired yet which takes place among a group of goths (Or TV's version of goths, anyway)? They're a fan group for an Anne Rice type of writer. I was wondering if any actual goths saw it and what they thought.


DXMachina - Feb 16, 2005 8:39:59 am PST #8137 of 10002
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

you said totally different vibe - my brain went to Square Pegs - and now I want a Square Pegs 20 year High School Reunion Special!!!!!!

Except that Johnny Slash is dead.


brenda m - Feb 16, 2005 8:40:42 am PST #8138 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Zombie reunion!


Jon B. - Feb 16, 2005 8:41:15 am PST #8139 of 10002
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Nutty - did you watch last night's episode of VM? It was revealed that Duncan has "type 4"(?) epilepsy which is apparently a more violent variety. There was also a flashback where VM overheard Bishop and Knight talking in the bathroom about how Duncan had had some sort of freaky violent episode.


Vortex - Feb 16, 2005 8:42:17 am PST #8140 of 10002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Oh, my God. That ending killed me. I mean, OK, dramatically interesting, yada yada, but I don't know if I can take so much heartache when I'm supposed to be watching the show for entertainment.

I think that the reason why this killed me is that I can totally see myself in that situation -- falling for a long time friend, having a great relationship, managing to fuck it up in some way (my mother may or may not be involved), pushing too hard when he needs some time (oh boy, can I see myself doing that), asking for help, then regretting it. Yeah, that's me. Except I've never seen The Way We Were.


msbelle - Feb 16, 2005 8:42:59 am PST #8141 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Johnny's death could be addressed.


JZ - Feb 16, 2005 8:42:59 am PST #8142 of 10002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

It does happen, though, Nutty. I did a show once with a guy who tried to kill his mother during an epileptic fit. He and I worked closely together on a show that lasted almost six months all told, and some relatives of mine were close to his family and knew a lot of the family history and it's safe to say that this is NEVER, EVER something he would have done outside of a seizure. Non-seizure-y, he's a gentle affectionate puppydog of a man who is very loving toward and protective of his family (and not in a show-offy SNAGgy "Behold my marvelous sensitivity!" way, either; just because it's who he is). Seizure-y, he is someone else.

Admittedly it's rare and extreme, but Jon's theory, sadly, isn't that implausible.


§ ita § - Feb 16, 2005 8:43:49 am PST #8143 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Vortex, can you vague/spoilerfont that up a bit more?

I'm pretty sure we crossed the line last night, but I still need to go back and clean up.


DXMachina - Feb 16, 2005 8:43:52 am PST #8144 of 10002
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Jon, it's a good theory.