Look, you got a little stabbed the other day. That's bound to make anyone a mite ornery.

Mal ,'Ariel'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


P.M. Marc - Feb 10, 2005 4:31:08 pm PST #6046 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I've seen Bush be charming, but I've never seen such an adept, classic "I feel your pain" politician moment out of him.

Huh. You're the only person I've seen who didn't think it was a complete jackass remark.


Sue - Feb 10, 2005 4:31:30 pm PST #6047 of 10002
hip deep in pie

More boring Canadian Govt. facts here: [link]


Jesse - Feb 10, 2005 4:36:06 pm PST #6048 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I don't like all these new people on CSI. It's confusing.


§ ita § - Feb 10, 2005 4:37:48 pm PST #6049 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You can indicate that losing salary, etc., would create a hardship preventing you from serving. Not that it will always work.

See, it should either work always in which case you get really skewed juries, or it should never work, and people get fucked over.

Maybe it was destined to be one perfect season of teevee and that's all.

Was there no Oliver in your season 1?


Hil R. - Feb 10, 2005 4:40:59 pm PST #6050 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

More boring Canadian Govt. facts here:

Not so boring. Kind of interesting, and it alerted me to the existence of Nunavut, which I'd somehow never noticed before, and which looks pretty fascinating.


Stephanie - Feb 10, 2005 4:43:21 pm PST #6051 of 10002
Trust my rage

You're the only person I've seen who didn't think it was a complete jackass remark.

I'm usually very willing to see much of what Bush says as stupid or rude (because it is), but I didn't see it here. Maybe I read it that way (as in, not in a bad way) because it sounded like the woman heard it that way.


Noumenon - Feb 10, 2005 4:50:03 pm PST #6052 of 10002
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti

You're the only person I've seen who didn't think it was a complete jackass remark.

There's definitely a human connection in their dialogue, you can't deny that. He comes off as admiring her work ethic, concerned about how much sleep she gets, and wanting to look out for her interests when she's too busy. The comment about "uniquely American," well, I grew up on Reader's Digest stories about the immigrant who came over and worked three jobs sleeping three hours a night so he could send his daughter to school or buy a popsicle stand or something. When we see someone working those hours, we don't immediately think "wage slave," we think "work ethic." It comes from identifying the wellbeing of America with the productivity of its economy, but I can think that way sometimes.


§ ita § - Feb 10, 2005 4:52:04 pm PST #6053 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

When we see someone working those hours, we don't immediately think "wage slave," we think "work ethic." It comes from identifying the wellbeing of America with the productivity of its economy, but I can think that way sometimes.

Really? I thought of all the people outside of America who need to work multiple jobs, and thought it arrogant and dismissive of him to try and claim it.


Dana - Feb 10, 2005 4:52:14 pm PST #6054 of 10002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

He comes off as admiring her work ethic, concerned about how much sleep she gets, and wanting to look out for her interests when she's too busy.

Uh. I thought he came off as offensively clueless, personally.


P.M. Marc - Feb 10, 2005 4:53:58 pm PST #6055 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

When we see someone working those hours, we don't immediately think "wage slave," we think "work ethic."

See, and I think "wage slave."

It's the fact that he chuckled when he said "uniquely American" that raised my (and, it seems, Matt Drudge's) hackles a tad. It didn't seem to me like he was connecting.