Simon: The decision saved your life. Zoe: Won't happen again, sir. Mal: Good. And thanks. I'm grateful. Zoe: It was my pleasure, sir.

'Out Of Gas'


Natter 32 Flavors and Then Some  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Stephanie - Feb 10, 2005 4:43:21 pm PST #6051 of 10002
Trust my rage

You're the only person I've seen who didn't think it was a complete jackass remark.

I'm usually very willing to see much of what Bush says as stupid or rude (because it is), but I didn't see it here. Maybe I read it that way (as in, not in a bad way) because it sounded like the woman heard it that way.


Noumenon - Feb 10, 2005 4:50:03 pm PST #6052 of 10002
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti

You're the only person I've seen who didn't think it was a complete jackass remark.

There's definitely a human connection in their dialogue, you can't deny that. He comes off as admiring her work ethic, concerned about how much sleep she gets, and wanting to look out for her interests when she's too busy. The comment about "uniquely American," well, I grew up on Reader's Digest stories about the immigrant who came over and worked three jobs sleeping three hours a night so he could send his daughter to school or buy a popsicle stand or something. When we see someone working those hours, we don't immediately think "wage slave," we think "work ethic." It comes from identifying the wellbeing of America with the productivity of its economy, but I can think that way sometimes.


§ ita § - Feb 10, 2005 4:52:04 pm PST #6053 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

When we see someone working those hours, we don't immediately think "wage slave," we think "work ethic." It comes from identifying the wellbeing of America with the productivity of its economy, but I can think that way sometimes.

Really? I thought of all the people outside of America who need to work multiple jobs, and thought it arrogant and dismissive of him to try and claim it.


Dana - Feb 10, 2005 4:52:14 pm PST #6054 of 10002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

He comes off as admiring her work ethic, concerned about how much sleep she gets, and wanting to look out for her interests when she's too busy.

Uh. I thought he came off as offensively clueless, personally.


P.M. Marc - Feb 10, 2005 4:53:58 pm PST #6055 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

When we see someone working those hours, we don't immediately think "wage slave," we think "work ethic."

See, and I think "wage slave."

It's the fact that he chuckled when he said "uniquely American" that raised my (and, it seems, Matt Drudge's) hackles a tad. It didn't seem to me like he was connecting.


sarameg - Feb 10, 2005 4:54:27 pm PST #6056 of 10002

I'm with Jesse and brenda. I have certain OC Issues and they are being mean about them.

Baltimore City pays a whole $14/ day! Whooo! And parking will run you $5/day. And get free soda at various nearby eateries. I'm pretty sure I make more per hour. My employer does make up the difference, but I kinda laugh at the paperwork unless I get Horrors! the 4 month grand jury stint. No idea what the law is, though. Probably costs employer more to do paperwork. They should just eat it.

Funky basement/damp cardboard stench coming from where the wall is open behind the stove for new gas lines. I'm presuming it is cause they are repainting downstairs apartment, but....it's all musty. I don't like it. Even ran dishwasher on off chance that was it. I don't like musty basements. They give me nightmares.


P.M. Marc - Feb 10, 2005 4:55:42 pm PST #6057 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Crap. That's right. I have to get out of jury duty next month. I didn't have time to ask my OB for a note on Monday. Guess I'll have to ask at my next appointment.


sarameg - Feb 10, 2005 4:59:28 pm PST #6058 of 10002

Plei, you could be evil and fake labor in the jury waiting room...

(normally, I'm against abusing fake girlie-ploys, but dude! You kinda aren't an ideal juror with the peeing and the incipient babyhaving and all else. And it would be amusing for you . Fake, that is.)


Noumenon - Feb 10, 2005 5:01:55 pm PST #6059 of 10002
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti

I thought of all the people outside of America who need to work multiple jobs, and thought it arrogant and dismissive of him to try and claim it.

That's a whole different objection than even crossed my mind! So I went to look up those stats about Americans working hundreds more hours a year than the French or even the Japanese, and I found that South Koreans work 2400 hours a year to our 1800. I guess that lady is uniquely South Korean. But I also found a Federal Reserve Bank paper claiming it's nothing cultural and all explained by tax rates, so nobody's special.


sarameg - Feb 10, 2005 5:07:41 pm PST #6060 of 10002

A nearly 17 lb cat can stand on a keyboard, ignoring the mad dinging and fire up every application in your launch menu.

Just so you know.