Out of the mouths of babes, Laura. That made me tear up a little bit.
Xander: I still don't get why we came here to get info about a killer snot monster. Giles: Because it's a killer snot monster from outer space. I did not say that.
'Never Leave Me'
Natter 32 Flavors and Then Some
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Cashmere - Feb 04, 2005 9:53:49 am PST #4056 of 10002
Now tagless for your comfort.
Gus - Feb 04, 2005 9:58:45 am PST #4057 of 10002
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.
"so you're saying that when I am your age little kids will be shocked to hear that gay people couldn't get married when I was a kid."
This rocks so hard.
bon bon - Feb 04, 2005 9:59:20 am PST #4058 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
Ellis Island, etc., didn't have much quality control over spelling.
This is a widely-held belief that is not entirely accurate. [link]
§ ita § - Feb 04, 2005 9:59:38 am PST #4059 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I've seen Jose work the heavy bag and do general krav. I wouldn't pick him over an all limbs fighter, since he's not that limber or exceptionally fast, but he'd make a solid and imposing bodyguard.
Sparky1 - Feb 04, 2005 10:01:47 am PST #4060 of 10002
Librarian Warlord
This is a widely-held belief that is not entirely accurate.
They certainly screwed up my family name...
Gus - Feb 04, 2005 10:05:33 am PST #4061 of 10002
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.
I have to differ with the author of [link] . My family name changed (well after the Ellis Island era) on immigration to the States. Can't blame any INS people, though. My Pops could not spell English.
bon bon - Feb 04, 2005 10:08:47 am PST #4062 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
I have to differ with the author of [link] . My family name changed (well after the Ellis Island era) on immigration to the States. Can't blame any INS people, though. My Pops could not spell English.
That's not disagreement; the article is about the unlikelihood of name changes actually deriving from the procedures at Ellis Island.
Gus - Feb 04, 2005 10:13:24 am PST #4063 of 10002
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.
That's not disagreement; the article is about the unlikelihood of name changes actually deriving from the procedures at Ellis Island.
Too true. Ellis Island procedures from then are not the INS procedures of today. Today, the INS just says "No!", which is much easier to spell.
JZ - Feb 04, 2005 10:13:30 am PST #4064 of 10002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
My family name changed (well after the Ellis Island era) on immigration to the States. Can't blame any INS people, though.
Ditto my family name, and ditto the blamelessness of the INS. We went for decades believing that it had been mangled by an incompetent clerk, but when I asked my grandfather about it (in his nineties at the time, recalling his arrival at Ellis Island at the age of 13 accompanied only by his also-13 best friend), he said cheerfully that he'd shortened the name himself because he wanted something short and jaunty and American (with a possible small side order of he was all on his own, would never see his parents again, and there was nobody around to forbid him from doing exactly whatever the hell he wanted with his name, so there).
sarameg - Feb 04, 2005 10:26:41 am PST #4065 of 10002
My grandmother & her parents' names came from the ship's manifest (a form provided by the department of Labor) which, given the proper swedish punctuation and spelling, was filled out by a swedish speaker.
I can actually look them up at ellisisland.org and view a scan of the manifests. It's how I learned my g-grandmother's middle name and that they initially went to Lackawanna, NY (I knew they spent some time in NY when they first arrived, I just didn't know where.)