is the problem that you think the media has equated his guilt of being a weirdo with guilt of pedophilia?

or that the media plays up his weirdoness?

or that we all think is a weirdo?

The first two are the problem.

The third one is just a little tedious because I don't think anyone would care that he's a weirdo if it weren't for the first two. We run aroud in corsets, we conversationally quote a genre show that's been off the air for three years, we exchange tiaras every few months...

Apparently, there are a dozens or hundreds of parents in the world who do not agree with you and are fine with their kids and twenty or thirty other kids having a slumber party with Michael Jackson.

Any adult person who wants to have a slumber party with a bunch of children who aren't his own, is suspect (that is suspect to me, as a parent, as far as me allowing my kid to stay over).

If my mother wants to have my kids over for a sleepover, that's cool. Aside from knowing her well enough (duh) their relationship is a close one. If my mother wanted to have a gang of children from my neighborhood over for a sleepover, I'd get her help.

I am NEVER going to be able to respect the judgment of people who let their kids have sleepovers at Michael Jackson's, or any random rich/famous persons, regardless of whether he is currently under investigation for child molestation charges. Right there, their judgment sucks. Their opinions carry negative weight.

And you know what? I wouldn't do the first or third of those in front of a documentary cameraman.

Appropriate context, appropriate behavior.

And you know what? I wouldn't do the first or third of those in front of a documentary cameraman.

Appropriate context, appropriate behavior.

Plenty of people here would.

And there are plenty of others who'll dub you weird and not-grown-up just for the second.

Not watching the news or what I call trashy gossip programs, I don't know what is being covereed with the MJ stuff. I think it is sad that people feed the media frenzy, but they certainly do. Along the same line, I think any celebrity accused of wrongdoing is pretty much presented as guilty by the media. It seems to me that MJ brings lots of the attention on himself by holding press conference and refusing to keep a low profile.

As with anything, people we know are allowed more freedom in their actions than people we don't. I wouldn't go to a con and I would look strangly at a group of adults wearing tiaras or corsets if it wasn't clear that they were part of a show or entertainment event of some sort.

There are dozens or hundreds of people in the world who do lots of things I consider insane.

Dude, 51 million people voted for Bush in the last election. I'm still talking myself out of going around the country with a list and a question. The question being, "WTF????"

Slightly tongue in cheek political rant aside, I feel there are many situations that a lot of people signed up for some Very Bad Stuff, as a group.

I'm still talking myself out of going around the country with a list and a question. The question being, "WTF????"

Need a driver?

Need a driver?

Shotgun!!!!

Wow! Weatherbug says that it's 40 degrees outside!

It's 71 sunny and gorgeous in San Francisco.

Why are we still talking about MJ when we could be talking about my lunch?

David's Lunch: Grilled skirt steak sandwich, juicy and tender. Served on a ciabatta roll with sauteed mushrooms and onions, and a touch of horseradish sauce. For dessert: the banana cream tartlette I like from Miette, that has a Scharffenberger chocolate bottom.

Hivemind question: I'm graduating in May, won't be working until at least next Jan and I have almost 80K in student loans. I have heard there is "consolidation" and "deferment" but I'm not sure what either is. Can y'all help?