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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


msbelle - Feb 02, 2005 10:55:47 am PST #3315 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I totally missed that your baby visitage was mid-day. FUN!


sarameg - Feb 02, 2005 10:58:43 am PST #3316 of 10002

Yup, it was fun. Giggling over how weird babies can be is underrated. She yodel-babbles. And growls.


Trudy Booth - Feb 02, 2005 10:59:46 am PST #3317 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I don't know that MJ isn't absolutely banana cakes.

Its obvious to me, though, that "they" love to paint him as nuts and have for a long time. Why is it crazier when madly wealthy and wildly creative to to have a sequined wardrobe that you design yourself and and have made than to wear the identical hand-made suit as every other multi millionaire? Why is it crazier to build an amusement park filled with every pet you could ever want than to buy an island in the carribbean and fly in supermodels for coke orgies? Lots of celebrities with too much money keep doing plastic surgery-- and if some things went wrong (the nose, the burns) plenty of them might keep trying to make their face look a way they're happy with. I loved being a camp counselor, given my druthers I might do that forever. If every person I met wanted something from me except small children and my gigantic immediate family I might only hang out with those people (He DOES hang out with adults, they're just all kin. Hell, most of my father's seven siblings primarily socialize with each other and their cousins. It's not inherently sick.)

None of its inherently sick. If he's molesting kids he's sick -- but none of the above are a) necessarily crazy or b) "symptoms" that he's a pedophile.


Steph L. - Feb 02, 2005 11:06:26 am PST #3318 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

None of its inherently sick. If he's molesting kids he's sick -- but none of the above are a) necessarily crazy or b) "symptoms" that he's a pedophile.

Trudy, I really admire how you speak up to defend people when they're getting the short end of the stick. However, I don't think, in reading this discussion, that anyone here is saying that his quirks of clothing, residence, etc., are crazy, or that they're symptoms of pedophilia. People have pretty much been focusing on the sleeping in the same bed with kids part of it.


§ ita § - Feb 02, 2005 11:08:40 am PST #3319 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Allyson! From Defamer:

This morning as we dawdled at our table drinking that oh-so-necessary 6th cup of coffee, I got to watch Benjamin McKenzie waiting for 20 minutes or so for a table at Home in Los Feliz

Okay, you don't care about Ryan Atwood, but his actor was, like, totally in your nabe.

Wait -- Nutty -- how about being in love with fictional characters -- does that scare you too?


Trudy Booth - Feb 02, 2005 11:09:27 am PST #3320 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Steph, I don't necessarily mean here, I should have been more clear. I mean the society at large. "The man is nuts" "Of course he did it" seems to be the beginning and end of the discussion.

Then they all pop popcorn and watch the circus.


Jessica - Feb 02, 2005 11:10:39 am PST #3321 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I got to watch Benjamin McKenzie waiting for 20 minutes or so for a table at Home in Los Feliz

Oh! swoon

t /easy


Calli - Feb 02, 2005 11:11:29 am PST #3322 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I got to watch Benjamin McKenzie waiting for 20 minutes or so for a table at Home in Los Feliz

You know, Durham restaurants just don't have this kinda view. Unfortunately.


Steph L. - Feb 02, 2005 11:11:49 am PST #3323 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Steph, I don't necessarily mean here, I should have been more clear. I mean the society at large. "The man is nuts" "Of course he did it" seems to be the beginning and end of the discussion.

Ah, got it. (To be fair, people thought/think Dennis Rodman is/was nuts for at least one of the same reasons that MJ gets called on -- his attire/appearance. And I'm not sure people would send their kids to an overnight with Rodman, either.)


§ ita § - Feb 02, 2005 11:11:51 am PST #3324 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Los Feliz is the most star-spottable SoCal neighbourhood I've spent any time in. Of course, that was before Ryan left Chino.