Dawn: I think a date should be in a real fancy restaurant, then champagne at a night club with a floor show, then ballroom dancing. Joyce: Unfortunately, we're not dating in a movie from the thirties.

'Get It Done'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sarameg - Feb 01, 2005 5:30:54 pm PST #3034 of 10002

It's COLD!

Anyway, I figure I'll start a lot of rumors at work tomorrow when people think K is mine. Hell, for some reason (ok, one misinformed bigmouth) a good bunch of people think I'm married.

But I'm looking forward to it. 1) K likes me, and she's really particular and 2) an hour notworking! With cute baby! Yay for important meetings and husbands on high security projects they can't work on with their resident alien wives present! Or something.


Cashmere - Feb 01, 2005 5:56:15 pm PST #3035 of 10002
Now tagless for your comfort.

Ooof, that's tough. Both EM and I kiss Emmett on the mouth. Admittedly, it doesn't happen all that often anymore (usually when I'm putting him to bed and he's feeling especially affectionate). But when he was a babe, I kissed him all over on a regular basis. His infant idea of a kiss was to grab your head very tight and press his open gummy mouth against your cheek with tremendous ferocity. Not all kisses are sexualized.

EXACTLY my thinking. DH has a germ thing. He gets it from his mother and his maternal grandmother (who was Howard Hughes germ phobic). We polled our friends and the only one who agreed with him has a very cold, distant relationship with her parents. I'm just a kisser. I'll restrict my affection to age-appropriate demonstrations as O gets older, but I'm not going to kill myself to hold back to what feels completely natural to me while he's little. I'll lose that soon enough without freaking myself or him out trying to control someone else's intimacy issues.

Thing is, DH is very affectionate with me and the baby. He just thinks mouth kissing should be restricted to sexual partners. *shrug*


Sue - Feb 01, 2005 5:57:06 pm PST #3036 of 10002
hip deep in pie

Ooof, that's tough. Both EM and I kiss Emmett on the mouth. Admittedly, it doesn't happen all that often anymore (usually when I'm putting him to bed and he's feeling especially affectionate). But when he was a babe, I kissed him all over on a regular basis. His infant idea of a kiss was to grab your head very tight and press his open gummy mouth against your cheek with tremendous ferocity. Not all kisses are sexualized.

There was a video artist here that was investigated by the police because she filmed her and her baby when her baby was giving her these kind of kisses on the mouth. Played back in slo-mo, it looked like squicky opened mouth kisses, and someone called the cops.


Jessica - Feb 01, 2005 6:01:56 pm PST #3037 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

We polled our friends and the only one who agreed with him has a very cold, distant relationship with her parents.

Seriously? Because I have a great relationship with my parents, but I have never kissed either one on the mouth. For the idea not to squick me, it would have to be a very young baby.


Jesse - Feb 01, 2005 6:02:41 pm PST #3038 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Here's a pro-mouth kissing argument: Someone I know never kissed in his family growing up, so he really only kissed women he was making out with. So at his wedding, when his brand new wife's best friend went to give him a little smack on the lips (as she would any close friend or family member), he accidentally slipped her a little tongue. Oops!


Susan W. - Feb 01, 2005 6:03:20 pm PST #3039 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

We don't kiss Annabel on the mouth. I'm well aware that I come from one of the world's least physically demonstrative families that actually does like each other, and I'm trying to be more cuddly with the babygirl, but I'd just feel weird about kissing her on the mouth. Totally my thing, though--I don't have an issue with other people kissing their babies.

Plus, if I kissed her on the mouth, she'd be perfectly positioned to grab my glasses. So I'll stick to cheeks, hands, tummy zerberts, etc.


Hil R. - Feb 01, 2005 6:04:07 pm PST #3040 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Seriously? Because I have a great relationship with my parents, but I have never kissed either one on the mouth. For the idea not to squick me, it would have to be a very young baby.

Me too.


Cashmere - Feb 01, 2005 6:04:15 pm PST #3041 of 10002
Now tagless for your comfort.

Seriously? Because I have a great relationship with my parents, but I have never kissed either one on the mouth. For the idea not to squick me, it would have to be a very young baby.

I'm not saying EVERYONE squicked by mouth kissing has crappy relationships with their parents. But it has a lot to do with the traditions in your family. My husbands family NEVER kisses each other on the mouth. We do. It's not like we're French kissing--just pecks on the mouth.

It's a deeply complex issue, as I've found.


Betsy HP - Feb 01, 2005 6:04:49 pm PST #3042 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

I kiss babies on the mouth; at some point when my kids were growing up, we shifted to cheeks.


DavidS - Feb 01, 2005 6:08:50 pm PST #3043 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Played back in slo-mo, it looked like squicky opened mouth kisses, and someone called the cops.

Thing is, babies will slip you the tongue. Because even if you know the socialized boundaries - they don't. But that's so freakin' wrong to have called the cops, because babies are always crossing that boundary. Emmett (infant, less than a year old) would tub with me, and he had no problem with grabbing me by the scrotum. (I had plenty of problems with it, of course.) They do stuff like that all the time. That's the thing you learn as a parent - there is intense physical intimacy that is NOT sexual.