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Jessica - Feb 01, 2005 6:01:56 pm PST #3037 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

We polled our friends and the only one who agreed with him has a very cold, distant relationship with her parents.

Seriously? Because I have a great relationship with my parents, but I have never kissed either one on the mouth. For the idea not to squick me, it would have to be a very young baby.


Jesse - Feb 01, 2005 6:02:41 pm PST #3038 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Here's a pro-mouth kissing argument: Someone I know never kissed in his family growing up, so he really only kissed women he was making out with. So at his wedding, when his brand new wife's best friend went to give him a little smack on the lips (as she would any close friend or family member), he accidentally slipped her a little tongue. Oops!


Susan W. - Feb 01, 2005 6:03:20 pm PST #3039 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

We don't kiss Annabel on the mouth. I'm well aware that I come from one of the world's least physically demonstrative families that actually does like each other, and I'm trying to be more cuddly with the babygirl, but I'd just feel weird about kissing her on the mouth. Totally my thing, though--I don't have an issue with other people kissing their babies.

Plus, if I kissed her on the mouth, she'd be perfectly positioned to grab my glasses. So I'll stick to cheeks, hands, tummy zerberts, etc.


Hil R. - Feb 01, 2005 6:04:07 pm PST #3040 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Seriously? Because I have a great relationship with my parents, but I have never kissed either one on the mouth. For the idea not to squick me, it would have to be a very young baby.

Me too.


Cashmere - Feb 01, 2005 6:04:15 pm PST #3041 of 10002
Now tagless for your comfort.

Seriously? Because I have a great relationship with my parents, but I have never kissed either one on the mouth. For the idea not to squick me, it would have to be a very young baby.

I'm not saying EVERYONE squicked by mouth kissing has crappy relationships with their parents. But it has a lot to do with the traditions in your family. My husbands family NEVER kisses each other on the mouth. We do. It's not like we're French kissing--just pecks on the mouth.

It's a deeply complex issue, as I've found.


Betsy HP - Feb 01, 2005 6:04:49 pm PST #3042 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

I kiss babies on the mouth; at some point when my kids were growing up, we shifted to cheeks.


DavidS - Feb 01, 2005 6:08:50 pm PST #3043 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Played back in slo-mo, it looked like squicky opened mouth kisses, and someone called the cops.

Thing is, babies will slip you the tongue. Because even if you know the socialized boundaries - they don't. But that's so freakin' wrong to have called the cops, because babies are always crossing that boundary. Emmett (infant, less than a year old) would tub with me, and he had no problem with grabbing me by the scrotum. (I had plenty of problems with it, of course.) They do stuff like that all the time. That's the thing you learn as a parent - there is intense physical intimacy that is NOT sexual.


Cashmere - Feb 01, 2005 6:08:56 pm PST #3044 of 10002
Now tagless for your comfort.

I'm totally curious about kissing now and how the custom originated. I mean, it has to have developed somewhere along the evolutionary line from some practical application (mothers feeding their babies pre-chewed food, etc. which DOES squick me). Then it became a sexualized custom for certain situations but not others.

I just need to avoid Freud.


DavidS - Feb 01, 2005 6:10:00 pm PST #3045 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'm totally curious about kissing now and how the custom originated.

In China it was considered absolutely barbaric. Tantamount to cannabalism because you were tasting somebody else. It's totally cultural.


Alibelle - Feb 01, 2005 6:10:38 pm PST #3046 of 10002
Apart from sports, "my secret favorite thing on earth is ketchup. I will put ketchup on anything. But it has to be Heinz." - my husband, Michael Vartan

Um, eww. How do you "accidentally" slip someone some tongue? It's pretty easy to keep one's tongue inside one's mouth. Unless she kissed him when his mouth was already open, in which case, that's kind of her fault. I don't think that's something to blame on the family, in any case.

ETA: In response to Jesse's kissing groom story.

Or, you know

Seriously? Because I have a great relationship with my parents, but I have never kissed either one on the mouth. For the idea not to squick me, it would have to be a very young baby.

Me three.