We killed a homeless man on this bench. Me and Dru. Those were good times. You know, he begged for mercy, and you know, that only made her bite harder.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sheryl - Feb 01, 2005 1:27:29 pm PST #2960 of 10002
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Sharing the "Butterfly Kisses" squick...waaay too much sap for its own good.


Alibelle - Feb 01, 2005 1:28:12 pm PST #2961 of 10002
Apart from sports, "my secret favorite thing on earth is ketchup. I will put ketchup on anything. But it has to be Heinz." - my husband, Michael Vartan

Thank you, flea. It's saccharine, absolutely. I really don't understand where the huge gross-out is coming from.

Edited to ask: WHY IS IT SQUICKY??? Seriously. I do not understand, and people just keep saying eww, and not explaining.

I'm beginning to think you are all perverts, and twisting it into something it's not.


Stephanie - Feb 01, 2005 1:32:20 pm PST #2962 of 10002
Trust my rage

I wouldn't use squick to describe my dislike of Butterfly Kisses. I have no problem with the kisses themselves, but the song is just way too sappy for my taste.


DXMachina - Feb 01, 2005 1:35:28 pm PST #2963 of 10002
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Motorists cannot buy devices, now used by emergency vehicles, to change red lights to green. [dude, I didn't even know they existed ...]

The hell with the anti-spam thing, I want one of these.

Cinnabon french toast

t Reconsiders plans for dinner...


§ ita § - Feb 01, 2005 1:35:33 pm PST #2964 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I am squicked, because we don't do sap like that in my family. There's not a moment in that song that I can envision even being related to, much less being myself. It doesn't charm, or comfort, or tug my heartstrings. It's Precious Moments of parenting to me.


Betsy HP - Feb 01, 2005 1:36:31 pm PST #2965 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

It is squicky for me because I give butterfly kisses on the tummy, with eyelashes, and the thought of a daddy doing that to his daughter on her wedding day is just ewwwww.

(Even in the lyrics she says "Not on the mouth, Daddy", which would tend to imply he gives butterfly kisses on the mouth.)

I think where you kiss kids is a cultural thing; I've grown up places where you kiss your little kids on the lips, but other people are totally squicked.


Alibelle - Feb 01, 2005 1:38:19 pm PST #2966 of 10002
Apart from sports, "my secret favorite thing on earth is ketchup. I will put ketchup on anything. But it has to be Heinz." - my husband, Michael Vartan

Thanks for the explanation, Nonian.

Maybe I have no problems with it because I first heard it when I was really little, and I loved butterfly kisses, and I rather wished that my dad was like the dad in the song. Also, I've never had a problem with sappiness, ever. I mean, BaRBiE+kEn4EvArrrr!!!!!!!!!, B/A4eVa!!!!!11!1!!!!, etc.

Other people are having extreme reactions that I don't get, though. Usually sappiness inspires mocking, not vomiting. So confusing.


§ ita § - Feb 01, 2005 1:41:00 pm PST #2967 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Usually sappiness inspires mocking, not vomiting. So confusing.

Parent/child sappiness, especially across gender (even if honestly totally legal) drives me way closer to the gag reflex, even though standard sap can make me sick by itself.

I think I've convinced another co-worker to try krav! And not even on purpose.


Lysana - Feb 01, 2005 1:42:20 pm PST #2968 of 10002
Hellbound Equal-Opportunity Nookie Hog

Other people are having extreme reactions that I don't get, though. Usually sappiness inspires mocking, not vomiting.

For me, the music and lyrics blend into this gut-punch of ew. The arrangement is way too maudlin while the singer sounds like he's lamenting the end of a romance.


Betsy HP - Feb 01, 2005 1:43:41 pm PST #2969 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

Pope hospitalized with "breathing crisis".