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§ ita § - Feb 01, 2005 1:35:33 pm PST #2964 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I am squicked, because we don't do sap like that in my family. There's not a moment in that song that I can envision even being related to, much less being myself. It doesn't charm, or comfort, or tug my heartstrings. It's Precious Moments of parenting to me.


Betsy HP - Feb 01, 2005 1:36:31 pm PST #2965 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

It is squicky for me because I give butterfly kisses on the tummy, with eyelashes, and the thought of a daddy doing that to his daughter on her wedding day is just ewwwww.

(Even in the lyrics she says "Not on the mouth, Daddy", which would tend to imply he gives butterfly kisses on the mouth.)

I think where you kiss kids is a cultural thing; I've grown up places where you kiss your little kids on the lips, but other people are totally squicked.


Alibelle - Feb 01, 2005 1:38:19 pm PST #2966 of 10002
Apart from sports, "my secret favorite thing on earth is ketchup. I will put ketchup on anything. But it has to be Heinz." - my husband, Michael Vartan

Thanks for the explanation, Nonian.

Maybe I have no problems with it because I first heard it when I was really little, and I loved butterfly kisses, and I rather wished that my dad was like the dad in the song. Also, I've never had a problem with sappiness, ever. I mean, BaRBiE+kEn4EvArrrr!!!!!!!!!, B/A4eVa!!!!!11!1!!!!, etc.

Other people are having extreme reactions that I don't get, though. Usually sappiness inspires mocking, not vomiting. So confusing.


§ ita § - Feb 01, 2005 1:41:00 pm PST #2967 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Usually sappiness inspires mocking, not vomiting. So confusing.

Parent/child sappiness, especially across gender (even if honestly totally legal) drives me way closer to the gag reflex, even though standard sap can make me sick by itself.

I think I've convinced another co-worker to try krav! And not even on purpose.


Lysana - Feb 01, 2005 1:42:20 pm PST #2968 of 10002
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Other people are having extreme reactions that I don't get, though. Usually sappiness inspires mocking, not vomiting.

For me, the music and lyrics blend into this gut-punch of ew. The arrangement is way too maudlin while the singer sounds like he's lamenting the end of a romance.


Betsy HP - Feb 01, 2005 1:43:41 pm PST #2969 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

Pope hospitalized with "breathing crisis".


Alibelle - Feb 01, 2005 1:51:01 pm PST #2970 of 10002
Apart from sports, "my secret favorite thing on earth is ketchup. I will put ketchup on anything. But it has to be Heinz." - my husband, Michael Vartan

You know how much I love you Daddy / But if you don't mind I'm only gonna kiss you on the cheek this time

I didn't see anything about not on the mouth, Betsy. I read this line to mean they were doing butterfly kisses on the cheek, and then when she got older, she just kissed him regularly on the cheek instead of doing butterfly kisses. And then I figured she butterfly kissed him on the cheek again at the wedding (instead of him butterfly kissing her tummy), because immediately before walking down the aisle would be a really weird time to make people start stripping out of their formal wear.

You guys are totally allowed your eww, just to be clear. I just don't get it. I like the idea of affection between kids and parents, even cross-gendered, when it seems completely innocent, like this seems (to me).

But I'm going to try and let it go. This will most likely be helped by the slice of cheesecake I'm about to go focus on.


Cashmere - Feb 01, 2005 1:52:33 pm PST #2971 of 10002
Now tagless for your comfort.

Pope hospitalized with "breathing crisis".

Could it be the cloud of gray smoke coming from the college of cardinals?


§ ita § - Feb 01, 2005 1:56:16 pm PST #2972 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I like the idea of affection between kids and parents

Affection -- good. Degree of affection -- variable impact.


Ginger - Feb 01, 2005 2:00:11 pm PST #2973 of 10002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

God, that's an awful song. I keep trying to forget and then ita brings it up again. I need a "Block Butterfly Kisses" function.

When you have a low tolerance for sappiness, something can be sappy enough to bring on nausea. It's the sugar overdose.