Simon: The decision saved your life. Zoe: Won't happen again, sir. Mal: Good. And thanks. I'm grateful. Zoe: It was my pleasure, sir.

'Out Of Gas'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Nutty - Dec 12, 2006 4:56:30 am PST #9273 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

It is weird, I guess (never having done something like that myself), but it sure seems there's money in it if you manage it right.

Right. I'm beginning to realize that SF-lit cons and media cons are really different entities -- SF lit is half industry caucus and half community. The boundaries between fans and "stars" are very permeable, over the long term. Also, I've never heard of an SF lit con that wouldn't immediately plow any profits back into the next con. (For that matter, every year people buy "non-attending" memberships in cons, essentially giving the con money just to make sure it survives.)

Not to posit SF lit cons as unable to have horrifying disasters (there was a humdinger of a one that got cons kicked out of Boston hotels for a long time), but generally speaking, the horrifying disasters are stupidity, disorganization, and people getting out of hand; the profit motive for disaster is absent.

Although, I will say, the fangirling that Neil Gaiman gets, he probably should (and could) charge for autographs. (I don't think he does.)


Dana - Dec 12, 2006 5:04:22 am PST #9274 of 10001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

I've been going to DragonCon for several years now, and it seems to me that they do an extraordinary job of wrangling 30,000 people and a few hundred guests.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 12, 2006 9:20:26 am PST #9275 of 10001
What is even happening?

(there was a humdinger of a one that got cons kicked out of Boston hotels for a long time)
Oh please tell, or link, Nutty.


Nutty - Dec 12, 2006 9:32:28 am PST #9276 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Oh it was like 20+ years ago. Here we are: [link]

As disasters go, it was self-made, and one of those "Now Timmy has spoiled it for the rest of the class" type of problems. But, let us say that that, and one Baycon (SF area) that had a committee self-destruct, are the only two disastercons that have made it into book format (Camille Bacon-Smith's Science Fiction Culture .)


omnis_audis - Dec 12, 2006 1:31:30 pm PST #9277 of 10001
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

on the plus side, Sci-Fi channel works in my office.

on the negative side... I forgot about the marathon until 1/2 way thru the last episode

:: sigh ::

I could have had Firefly on all day instead of Christmas songs.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 12, 2006 1:52:24 pm PST #9278 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Wow, it takes me back to the early 90s when a small local gaming group/con turned out to be a scheme to get the lead organizer some quick cash. One of my roomies got a court judgement against him after being wrongly implicated in the embezzlement, but apparently these things are VERY hard to get law enforcement to follow up on.

I don't regret the $ I shelled out for that Creation con with all the Mutant Enemy folks back in 2004 as a one-time experience, but I had more fun at the PBPs for much less money.


Monique - Dec 12, 2006 2:00:40 pm PST #9279 of 10001

I had more fun at the PBPs for much less money.

The PBPs were never something I had much interest in. I had fun helping out Allyson at her parties, but mass chaos just gives me panic attacks. I like the idea of an orderly convention, where you sit and get a chance at asking a question during the Q&As.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 12, 2006 2:12:32 pm PST #9280 of 10001
What is even happening?

Dear me, Nathan is particularly smokin', even in photos where he ought not be. I mean, we can't credit hair, make-up, wardrobe, and lighting.


JenP - Dec 12, 2006 3:15:42 pm PST #9281 of 10001

And, you know, this guy's not exactly uncute, is he? [link]


brenda m - Dec 14, 2006 7:01:13 am PST #9282 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Have we heard about the Fireflyverse RPG? [link] That might actually get me to try out this whole gaming thing.