From reading that, I have learned that there are issues to be raised and points to be made. Maybe they should consider articulating what those issues and points are.
Don't worry, I'm not gonna start any sword fights. I'm over that phase.
Mal ,'War Stories'
Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains
Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.
Strega - Oct 31, 2006 7:38:25 am PST #8922 of 10001
Allyson - Oct 31, 2006 7:39:32 am PST #8923 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Ohhh! I can! I know how!
Strega - Oct 31, 2006 8:12:43 am PST #8924 of 10001
I know you could, but I don't think you'll provide me with as much found comedy.
Kevin - Oct 31, 2006 9:20:51 am PST #8925 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
Maybe they should consider articulating what those issues and points are.
1) 11th Hour is being asked to pay just under $9000 fees for this site: [link]
2) It's all original artwork. There are no SERENITY logos, graphics, images from the film, character likenesses, script lines etc.
3) Universal used the artwork in question on their Serenity prepublicity material for SERENITY. Also, without permission from the designer. It's also visible on the SERENITY DVD. Without permission.
4) Universal encouraged fan material. They had a challenge on the US site where designing and distributing fan art lead to 'points' on the site. Additionally, Universal, myself and Spec Ops moderated the "Exchange Stuff" forum on the US official website, which was used solely for designing and selling SERENITY merchandise.
5) FanPimp, who handled Serenity's online campaign, boast in their SERENITY case study how they encouraged fans to design and distribute fan artwork.
6) Spec Ops got fans to email in photographs of themselves wear fan designed clothing for prizes.
7) It is not legal practice to send time limited legal threats via email. It needs proof of receipt if it were to be enforced in court.
My company hosts the Browncoat Invoice site thing which 'theonetruebix' did. It's going to reach a quarter of a million hits pretty soon, with virtually all coming from outside what is left of the fan base. It provides a very simple 'WTF' hook for a wider issue.
I'm all for IP enforcement usually, but going after the one fan who hasn't actually done anything, combined with the fact they murked up the water by trying a different marketing strategy makes this a tougher one than usual.
Allyson - Oct 31, 2006 9:32:15 am PST #8926 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
I would have been way funnier.
Kevin - Oct 31, 2006 9:53:00 am PST #8927 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
And 93% more entertaining, too. I did bore myself writing that post, which is never a good sign.
Topic!Cindy - Oct 31, 2006 10:17:01 am PST #8928 of 10001
What is even happening?
Did anyone save any proof that Universal asked the fans to market Serenity?
I remember them asking, mind you, but did anyone save screen shots, documents, etc.?
Kevin - Oct 31, 2006 10:29:03 am PST #8929 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
Laga - Oct 31, 2006 10:36:52 am PST #8930 of 10001
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
Universal are big giant toads.
ION it looks like (as long as I have no problems with my Saturday flight) we will be attending the midnight movie in Chicago.
WindSparrow - Oct 31, 2006 10:56:40 am PST #8931 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.
From reading that, I have learned that there are issues to be raised and points to be made. Maybe they should consider articulating what those issues and points are.
Strega, I'm afraid your comment leaves me unsure as to whether or not you have read only the snippet I C&Ped to respond to P-C, or if you are saying this after reading the whole page from whence I cut it.
ETA: Have fun, Laga!