And books, Tamara. Possibly badly written books. (If they let me do one).

I suppose I'm just having an identity crisis, as I'd group myself in as a Browncoat as, well, I've done the socialising bit. But I don't think there will be another movie (uhm, usually). But it sometimes feels like I'm a bad fan for sayin' it.

I consider myself a Browncoat and would be first in line for any new movie or TV show continuing the 'Verse but I don't see either as very likely.

Here's a question. I see many posts online from people saying fans have to keep faith a Firefly type project will reappear again. Is that a requirement as a fan, or is that what defines the term Browncoat?

I'd say it's not so much faith that there WILL be another FF/S 'verse project, but the hope of one.

But that's not right either, because even a passive fan can hope for more.

I'd say that a Browncoat is an active fan, the minimum being someone who takes even the small initiative to talk online, or IRL, about FF/S.

I put together an old page defining "browncoat", and it seems kinda outdated now that we've done fighting for the movie and won that battle.

I'm an old Browncoat, a retired veteran. I'm letting the new recruits do their thing. More power to them, but I'm just tired.

That's a good point, Juliebird. Maybe 'keep the faith' is more 'don't go away' in translation?

that, and the philosophy of a bunch of other Fireflyisms.

"Keep flying" being a big, all-encompassing one that really captures the spirit. The fact that we're still here talking about it, that's flying.

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I'm an old Browncoat, a retired veteran. I'm letting the new recruits do their thing. More power to them, but I'm just tired.

This pretty much sums up my feelings. I sent post cards and watched the ratings. I hyped the show to everyone I thought would remotely be interested, showing them my episodes on VHS when it was still on the air, and then SVCDs and finally DVDs once it wasn't. I helped throw room parties and host fan tables at Cons and even helped run a giant fan gathering of our own. And then I did it all over again for the movie.

I haven't done nearly as much as others, but I've done far more than I ever have for any other show, or will likely ever do again.

I still love my show, but I'm done fighting for her.

I see many posts online from people saying fans have to keep faith

Why? Do they become bad people if they move on? I really don't see why people to keep faith. If it happens, it happens. And it will happen for money not because some 15 yr old kid held his breath for a minute to get Firefly on the screen. And I'm really not fond of the term 'browncoat'. I see myself as a Firefly fan not as an item of clothing that I wouldn't be caught dead in. And I'm being a bit bitchy, and my feet are achy so I'm going back to lurking again. Toodles.

I can be more bitchy, as I'm ill. Oh yes.

Wasn't Browncoat adopted from Fireflyfans.net or some such?

Also, I just noticed Joss' rolling in kittens thing. Heh.

I'm pretty sure that the OB came up with Browncoat. I could be wrong. It happens.

I've never self-identified as a Browncoat because I tend not to herd or group well, and Browncoats pretty usually come in a bunch.

I was an instant fan when I saw the ship buzz the horses in the opening credits of The Train Job, and when I heard the music. Then I saw Serenity do that veiling turn and burn and I was lost forever.

I did the postcards thing and ponied up for the Variety ad and for flowers for the cast. I made daily calls to the request number to ask that Firefly be released on DVD, and I pre-ordered as many copies as I thought I could give for Christmas that year, and bought my own copy locally, going in stores that had them and guerilla-displaying the boxed sets face-out and in prominent spots.

I have my own set that will never leave my house and a loaner set for pimpage. I was a pushy nag about getting the Firefly soundtrack on CD, and so far have bought five copies, four for gifts.

I pimped out the series dvds in advance of Serenity's release, building as much of an audience as one woman could, singlehanded. And I attended Serenity's opening night in SF with a group of Buffistas.

I've done a lot to promote the show, the movie less because it's not my 'verse, it's Firefly through the Looking Glass and I like things where the series put them. But I've not actively discouraged anybody from seeing the movie or buying the (far inferior, to my mind) soundtrack or the dvd. I've bought a modest amount of tie-in merchandise, and may wind up with another book or two. But I'm not a Browncoat, in that I've not been to nor will I be attending any gathering of Firefly fans (crowd phobia).

I do think that some of the message in Firefly spoke to people, and I think if we keep some of that in mind and carry it forward that in a way, the spirit of the show goes on. Still flying.

But as for another series, another movie, well. Joss clearly has other things on his mind, and all the actors have to make a living meanwhile. Even were they willing to come back for another go at the 'verse, they've aged out of their roles, some. Two of my favorite characters are canonically dead, and the resident crazy has been cured. What sort of story is there left to tell? What's the point of returning to the 'verse for more film? That story is done.

Better to take that spirit, some of those ideals the show and the movie reminded us of, and put them in something new, something else, something shiny in its own right. Firefly was a beautiful thing, but as a concept, I think she's done other than backstory in print and ink.

Just my two cents.