Yes. Men like sports. Men watch the action movie, they eat of the beef, and enjoy to look at the bosoms. A thousand years of avenging our wrongs and that's all you've learned?

Xander ,'End of Days'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Kevin - Oct 02, 2006 12:04:20 pm PDT #8875 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Here's a question. I see many posts online from people saying fans have to keep faith a Firefly type project will reappear again. Is that a requirement as a fan, or is that what defines the term Browncoat?

I'd say I don't see how faith and Firefly go together, but I suppose that's what the show was about.


manzo - Oct 02, 2006 12:16:35 pm PDT #8876 of 10001
If we're really lucky, they'll do it in that order...

Not big on faith, myself, of any kind, so I don't see it being necessary. Mind you, I've never called myself a browncoat, so maybe it *is* a good definition.

So, did anyone see the HD episode yet? I'm :ahem: acquiring it, though not having an HD TV, nor, it would seem, a PC that's fast enough to show the thing anyway (have I reached *that* point of the PC cycle already?), I doubt that I'll get a chance to watch it for a long while.


Tamara - Oct 02, 2006 12:28:12 pm PDT #8877 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

I identify as a Browncoat and I have no faith that the verse will continue except in comics.


Kevin - Oct 02, 2006 12:31:11 pm PDT #8878 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

And books, Tamara. Possibly badly written books. (If they let me do one).

I suppose I'm just having an identity crisis, as I'd group myself in as a Browncoat as, well, I've done the socialising bit. But I don't think there will be another movie (uhm, usually). But it sometimes feels like I'm a bad fan for sayin' it.


Kalshane - Oct 02, 2006 12:33:09 pm PDT #8879 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I consider myself a Browncoat and would be first in line for any new movie or TV show continuing the 'Verse but I don't see either as very likely.


Juliebird - Oct 02, 2006 12:45:19 pm PDT #8880 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Here's a question. I see many posts online from people saying fans have to keep faith a Firefly type project will reappear again. Is that a requirement as a fan, or is that what defines the term Browncoat?

I'd say it's not so much faith that there WILL be another FF/S 'verse project, but the hope of one.

But that's not right either, because even a passive fan can hope for more.

I'd say that a Browncoat is an active fan, the minimum being someone who takes even the small initiative to talk online, or IRL, about FF/S.

I put together an old page defining "browncoat", and it seems kinda outdated now that we've done fighting for the movie and won that battle.

I'm an old Browncoat, a retired veteran. I'm letting the new recruits do their thing. More power to them, but I'm just tired.


Kevin - Oct 02, 2006 12:49:10 pm PDT #8881 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

That's a good point, Juliebird. Maybe 'keep the faith' is more 'don't go away' in translation?


Juliebird - Oct 02, 2006 12:57:55 pm PDT #8882 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

that, and the philosophy of a bunch of other Fireflyisms.

"Keep flying" being a big, all-encompassing one that really captures the spirit. The fact that we're still here talking about it, that's flying.

also, meant to include this [link]


Kalshane - Oct 02, 2006 1:06:01 pm PDT #8883 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I'm an old Browncoat, a retired veteran. I'm letting the new recruits do their thing. More power to them, but I'm just tired.

This pretty much sums up my feelings. I sent post cards and watched the ratings. I hyped the show to everyone I thought would remotely be interested, showing them my episodes on VHS when it was still on the air, and then SVCDs and finally DVDs once it wasn't. I helped throw room parties and host fan tables at Cons and even helped run a giant fan gathering of our own. And then I did it all over again for the movie.

I haven't done nearly as much as others, but I've done far more than I ever have for any other show, or will likely ever do again.

I still love my show, but I'm done fighting for her.


Simon - Oct 02, 2006 1:40:21 pm PDT #8884 of 10001

I see many posts online from people saying fans have to keep faith

Why? Do they become bad people if they move on? I really don't see why people to keep faith. If it happens, it happens. And it will happen for money not because some 15 yr old kid held his breath for a minute to get Firefly on the screen. And I'm really not fond of the term 'browncoat'. I see myself as a Firefly fan not as an item of clothing that I wouldn't be caught dead in. And I'm being a bit bitchy, and my feet are achy so I'm going back to lurking again. Toodles.