Are we talking about feedback for the authorial segment? Your buddies will lurves it, or remain silent. A professional beta-er will rip the skin off you in the hope you will grow a better complexion.
What? She killed 'em with mathematics. What else could it have been?
Jayne ,'Objects In Space'
Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains
Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.
Gus - Jun 03, 2006 10:08:24 pm PDT #8574 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.
Tamara - Jun 03, 2006 10:16:07 pm PDT #8575 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.
A professional beta-er will rip the skin off you in the hope you will grow a better complexion
Shouldn't that middleman be paid?
Gus - Jun 03, 2006 10:26:43 pm PDT #8576 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.
Shouldn't that middleman be paid?
Absolutely. That middleman. Middlemen after this do not contribute to the quality of the piece.
Tamara - Jun 03, 2006 10:51:31 pm PDT #8577 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.
Gus, I wish you the best, but I am going to stop this discussion now because I don't feel like I am getting my point across to you.
Gus - Jun 03, 2006 11:19:33 pm PDT #8578 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.
Ah, crap. Don't go away mad, Tamara. Maybe you could simple-up your point for this simpleton.
evil jimi - Jun 04, 2006 3:36:05 am PDT #8579 of 10001
Lurching from one disaster to the next.
And also chose to shoot Serenity here, which is rare these days.
In hindsight, maybe not such a good idea.
thegrommit - Jun 04, 2006 5:42:05 am PDT #8580 of 10001
Um.
Maybe this discussion is too serious-like for buffistas....
Sure, dogpile on Gus.
Huh. Ever consider that your worldview may be too simplistic?
I happen to agree there is a place for direct contact between creators and consumers, but this model doesn't scale well when you're talking about millions of consumers. At some point, various "middle-men" become a necessity, if only to perform those tasks the creator isn't good at.
Consuela - Jun 04, 2006 7:00:44 am PDT #8581 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
Your buddies will lurves it, or remain silent.
Yours might. Mine hold my feet to the fire until I cry like a four-year-old who dropped her ice cream cone. It's part of the reason they're my buddies.
Mr. Broom - Jun 04, 2006 7:08:42 am PDT #8582 of 10001
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor
Exactly. My girlfriend wants to edit my writing because first off, she's a dyed-in-the-wool editor and second, if there's one person she won't pull punches with, it's me. None of my writer friends have ever let me down easy. It's all a matter of which buddies you go to. Mom is probably not a good idea.
WindSparrow - Jun 04, 2006 7:31:51 am PDT #8583 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.
My girlfriend wants to edit my writing because first off, she's a dyed-in-the-wool editor and second, if there's one person she won't pull punches with, it's me. None of my writer friends have ever let me down easy. It's all a matter of which buddies you go to.
This works when you have friends who value (your) good writing higher than they value your ego. They also have to trust that YOU value good writing higher than your own ego, as well.