Hell, I don't know. If I had wanted schooling, I'da gone to school.

Jayne ,'Ariel'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Consuela - Jun 03, 2006 9:34:01 pm PDT #8572 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

And editor does not equal beta reader.

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That totally depends on who you get to beta it.

But carry on. I don't have a dog in this fight.


Allyson - Jun 03, 2006 9:49:27 pm PDT #8573 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

That totally depends on who you get to beta it.

HA! I got an army of 'em.


Gus - Jun 03, 2006 10:08:24 pm PDT #8574 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Are we talking about feedback for the authorial segment? Your buddies will lurves it, or remain silent. A professional beta-er will rip the skin off you in the hope you will grow a better complexion.


Tamara - Jun 03, 2006 10:16:07 pm PDT #8575 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

A professional beta-er will rip the skin off you in the hope you will grow a better complexion

Shouldn't that middleman be paid?


Gus - Jun 03, 2006 10:26:43 pm PDT #8576 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Shouldn't that middleman be paid?

Absolutely. That middleman. Middlemen after this do not contribute to the quality of the piece.


Tamara - Jun 03, 2006 10:51:31 pm PDT #8577 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

Gus, I wish you the best, but I am going to stop this discussion now because I don't feel like I am getting my point across to you.


Gus - Jun 03, 2006 11:19:33 pm PDT #8578 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Ah, crap. Don't go away mad, Tamara. Maybe you could simple-up your point for this simpleton.


evil jimi - Jun 04, 2006 3:36:05 am PDT #8579 of 10001
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

And also chose to shoot Serenity here, which is rare these days.

In hindsight, maybe not such a good idea.


thegrommit - Jun 04, 2006 5:42:05 am PDT #8580 of 10001
Um.

Maybe this discussion is too serious-like for buffistas.
...
Sure, dogpile on Gus.

Huh. Ever consider that your worldview may be too simplistic?

I happen to agree there is a place for direct contact between creators and consumers, but this model doesn't scale well when you're talking about millions of consumers. At some point, various "middle-men" become a necessity, if only to perform those tasks the creator isn't good at.


Consuela - Jun 04, 2006 7:00:44 am PDT #8581 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Your buddies will lurves it, or remain silent.

Yours might. Mine hold my feet to the fire until I cry like a four-year-old who dropped her ice cream cone. It's part of the reason they're my buddies.