And if there wasn't a mass market way to get product from creator to consumer, think how many fewer would see it.
I suddenly have this image of Joss doing puppet shows on street corners for spare change.
Zoe: I thought you wanted to spend more time off-ship this visit. Wash: Out there is seems like it's all fancy parties. I like our party better. The dress code is easier and I know all the steps.
'Shindig'
Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains
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aurelia - May 21, 2006 9:17:50 am PDT #8441 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.
Gus - May 21, 2006 6:42:43 pm PDT #8442 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.
I am a DirectTV kinda guy, so I see a similarity between what Apple is doing and what DirectTV is doing. If DirectTV wanted to bonk me for $1.99 per-view, I would give them the quick Adi-Ous.
§ ita § - May 21, 2006 7:07:01 pm PDT #8443 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I see a similarity between what Apple is doing and what DirectTV is doing
What is the similarity? Why is it more similar than pay per view, or purchasing a cd single?
DCJensen - May 21, 2006 7:19:18 pm PDT #8444 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.
Yeah, I don't see the similariry, either. Apple isn't charging people a previous product that it had offered for a monthly fee. It's simply providing an alternate conduit for something from another media. Content previously unavailable through it's service.
Apple isn't trying to pull a fast one, it's offering an alternative to people who either didn't record the programs, or didn't want to do any ripping of dvds just to watch. In the process, it is charging an agreed upon fee for the service.
Right up front it is giving people a choice: Buy it or don't. TANSTAAFL.
Gus - May 21, 2006 7:20:23 pm PDT #8445 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.
Gawd help me. ita is is throwing down with me. My demise is on the horizon.
Why is it more similar than pay per view, or purchasing a cd single?
In no wise. How do either of these originate content?
§ ita § - May 21, 2006 7:22:12 pm PDT #8446 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
How do either of these originate conten?
I seem to recall you having a problem with distributors. If the studio charged you the $1.99, would you feel better about it? Or if the producer charged, or the writer...
Apple is providing a service to the studios by distributing their content. They charge a margin, and both parties make some money, somewhere, or they wouldn't be doing it.
Gus - May 21, 2006 7:38:22 pm PDT #8447 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.
The writer could charge me.
both parties make some money, somewhere, or they wouldn't be doing it.
Really? Sure. Some portion is returned to the studio. What is returned to the creator? Zip-squeal, nada.
§ ita § - May 21, 2006 8:00:37 pm PDT #8448 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The writer could charge me.
Why not the director? Or the actors?
What is returned to the creator? Zip-squeal, nada.
How do you know this? Surely it is dependent on the contract in place, and that will vary from show to show.
Tamara - May 21, 2006 8:07:49 pm PDT #8449 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.
Gus, iTunes now figures into studios calculations of revenue streams when evaluating future projects. iTunes is actually enabling the creation of content that in the past would be nixed.
iTunes and similar delivery methods enable genre and niche entertainment to get greenlit in the first place.
Your logic is pretty faulty without all the facts.
New distribution methods always creates new product.
Gus - May 21, 2006 8:11:57 pm PDT #8450 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.
How do you know this? Surely it is dependent on the contract in place, and that will vary from show to show.
I do not know this, actually. Point to ita. Is anyone able to demonstrate how this model has made Nathan or Joss richer?