The writer could charge me.
both parties make some money, somewhere, or they wouldn't be doing it.
Really? Sure. Some portion is returned to the studio. What is returned to the creator? Zip-squeal, nada.
We knocked 'em deader!
Willow ,'Lies My Parents Told Me'
Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains
Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.
Gus - May 21, 2006 7:38:22 pm PDT #8447 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.
§ ita § - May 21, 2006 8:00:37 pm PDT #8448 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The writer could charge me.
Why not the director? Or the actors?
What is returned to the creator? Zip-squeal, nada.
How do you know this? Surely it is dependent on the contract in place, and that will vary from show to show.
Tamara - May 21, 2006 8:07:49 pm PDT #8449 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.
Gus, iTunes now figures into studios calculations of revenue streams when evaluating future projects. iTunes is actually enabling the creation of content that in the past would be nixed.
iTunes and similar delivery methods enable genre and niche entertainment to get greenlit in the first place.
Your logic is pretty faulty without all the facts.
New distribution methods always creates new product.
Gus - May 21, 2006 8:11:57 pm PDT #8450 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.
How do you know this? Surely it is dependent on the contract in place, and that will vary from show to show.
I do not know this, actually. Point to ita. Is anyone able to demonstrate how this model has made Nathan or Joss richer?
Gus - May 21, 2006 8:20:06 pm PDT #8451 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.
Tamrara: Studios. Studios are not the creators. They package the creations.
Polter-Cow - May 21, 2006 8:22:12 pm PDT #8452 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Yeah, but the creator makes no money if said creations are not packaged.
Spidra Webster - May 21, 2006 8:54:00 pm PDT #8453 of 10001
I wish I could just go somewhere to get flensed but none of the whaling ships near me take Medicare.
Gus, agents drive deals for actors and creators to get a piece of the action when the content goes to other media. It is possible that those who wrote contracts before iTunes Music Store started carrying videos aren't getting a cut. Possible. But a good lawyer and agent will write a contract that entertains the possibility of new technologies emerging and make sure that their artist gets a cut. And certainly contracts have been renogotiated after new techologies come around. This has happened with cable and DVDs.
Tamara - May 21, 2006 9:33:17 pm PDT #8454 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.
Gus, Studios finance the creations. You are fooling yourself if you think they are not necessary. You are looking at this with some sort of bias I don't understand. Studios are like a bank. Not good and not bad. How do you buy a house or open a business without a loan? Studios provide a valuable, necessary and good service.
They make the magic possible.
ETA: Is Universal evil and wrong because they believed in Joss and will probably never make a dime off of Serenity? Bah!
Kessie - May 22, 2006 3:26:40 am PDT #8455 of 10001
The thing about life is :You can rehearse it all you want,
But nobody else ever sticks to the script. So why bother?
Thought maybe you guys would like to listen to the Firefly filk project my friends and me are doing...
Hope a self link is okay here, if not I´m sorry...
thegrommit - May 22, 2006 3:32:57 am PDT #8456 of 10001
Um.
The writer could charge me.
How many writers can afford to fund the ~10 million it cost to make the Firefly pilot in the first place?
Studios assume the risk that a show isn't going to make any money. Very few creators can afford to do so.