I'll be in my bunk.

Jayne ,'War Stories'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Gus - May 21, 2006 12:45:40 am PDT #8436 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

It makes me sad, the thought that people are sending bux to Apple to refresh their Firefly memories.

Don't get me wrong. More Firefly, more better. Here are the Q's, though: Does any portion of those bux end up in Joss' or Nathan's account? Is any of this economic activity furthering creativity?

eta: You can stop the signal. Charge $1.99 per download.


Gus - May 21, 2006 2:30:53 am PDT #8437 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Post Toasties: You know, I am just pissed off at Apple.They are doing a billion-per-annum off of downloads. All they do is move content from creator to consumer. A billion-per-year could buy a whole assload of content origination.


thegrommit - May 21, 2006 4:06:14 am PDT #8438 of 10001
Um.

Post Toasties: You know, I am just pissed off at Apple.They are doing a billion-per-annum off of downloads.

Not quite. Net income last year was 1.7 billion, of which 50% was attributed to ipod hardware sales and itms. It's still a lot of money of course, but it could be argued that Pixar is/was effectively the content generator of the Jobs empire.


DCJensen - May 21, 2006 6:36:35 am PDT #8439 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

A billion in sales does not equal a billion in profit.

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While Apple celebrates its first profit from its iTunes store, music labels seek pricing changes.
April 20, 2006

After two-and-a-half years of losses, Apple’s iTunes Music Store showed a profit in the most recently completed quarter, and while that buoys Apple’s fortunes, it is hardly good news for the struggling music industry.

Apple said Wednesday the world’s best known and busiest music download store went just past the breakeven point, perhaps based on the growing popularity of video downloads, which topped 15 million recently

“The fact that iTunes took this long to turn a profit shows that there is not a lot of money to be made out of $0.99 singles,” said Mark Mulligan, research director of JupiterResearch. “Apple is the market leader with the ability to offset its fixed costs through volume, and even with that, it took them this long to reach profitability.”


§ ita § - May 21, 2006 8:06:52 am PDT #8440 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

iTunes is a way to sell iPods. And if there wasn't a mass market way to get product from creator to consumer, think how many fewer would see it. Why be mad at the people who distribute DVDs, or stations thar broadcast TV shows?


aurelia - May 21, 2006 9:17:50 am PDT #8441 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

And if there wasn't a mass market way to get product from creator to consumer, think how many fewer would see it.

I suddenly have this image of Joss doing puppet shows on street corners for spare change.


Gus - May 21, 2006 6:42:43 pm PDT #8442 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

I am a DirectTV kinda guy, so I see a similarity between what Apple is doing and what DirectTV is doing. If DirectTV wanted to bonk me for $1.99 per-view, I would give them the quick Adi-Ous.


§ ita § - May 21, 2006 7:07:01 pm PDT #8443 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I see a similarity between what Apple is doing and what DirectTV is doing

What is the similarity? Why is it more similar than pay per view, or purchasing a cd single?


DCJensen - May 21, 2006 7:19:18 pm PDT #8444 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Yeah, I don't see the similariry, either. Apple isn't charging people a previous product that it had offered for a monthly fee. It's simply providing an alternate conduit for something from another media. Content previously unavailable through it's service.

Apple isn't trying to pull a fast one, it's offering an alternative to people who either didn't record the programs, or didn't want to do any ripping of dvds just to watch. In the process, it is charging an agreed upon fee for the service.

Right up front it is giving people a choice: Buy it or don't. TANSTAAFL.


Gus - May 21, 2006 7:20:23 pm PDT #8445 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Gawd help me. ita is is throwing down with me. My demise is on the horizon.

Why is it more similar than pay per view, or purchasing a cd single?

In no wise. How do either of these originate content?