Jayne: You wanna go, little man? Wash: Only if it's someplace with candlelight.

'Objects In Space'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


JohnSweden - Jan 29, 2006 10:13:19 am PST #7828 of 10001
I can't even.

But I think there are degrees of fans for everything. I own all the Buffy DVDs, watched it religiously when it was on, have a bunch of the other stuff (like the RPG) just coz it's Buffy, but wouldn't consider joining an internet community that was formed around BtVS...wait.

I know what you mean. I mean, I'm a big dork, no question. I organized sci-fi and star trek conventions in the 80s (not looking to start a Dorkier contest, because it will get [more] embarrassing, just giving context). I consciously flipped the safeties off for Buffy. I decided I was a huge fan, was going to do hugely fannish Buffy stuff, and didn't care who knew it. Same with Firefly. Buffy broke me as someone who could pass for normal, and I was/am fine with it.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 29, 2006 7:19:52 pm PST #7829 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I have Buffy fandom to thank for more than half of the people I consider friends today, so I don't think it's possible for me to feel all that embarrassed about the level of dorkitude I've exhibited in pursuing it.


Consuela - Jan 29, 2006 7:23:49 pm PST #7830 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Here's Luck has made a Serenity vid. Link is here: [link] Don't forget to send her feedback.

If you were wondering, it's fantastic.


Lee - Jan 29, 2006 7:25:23 pm PST #7831 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Consuela=Pimp.


Consuela - Jan 29, 2006 7:26:49 pm PST #7832 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I try. It's hard not to share the really good crack, you know?


Lee - Jan 29, 2006 7:29:17 pm PST #7833 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

It is, and thank you for sharing.

It was great to see you today, and your new haircut is very nice.


Mikey - Jan 30, 2006 2:15:19 am PST #7834 of 10001
All this time, I thought Hunter was a bitch. Turns out she was just hungry.

Did you see the Firefly Barbies? Somebody's got to say it: Companion Barbie.


libkitty - Jan 30, 2006 12:01:39 pm PST #7835 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

In my time at b.org, I've come to be much more accepting of fannish behavior in myself and others. I have my limits - mostly financial - but apparently they're much further out than they used to be. I recently realized how much I've changed since I discovered Firefly.

I'm in the 3rd year of a 4-year course at my church. This course emphasizes group discussion and our discussions can become quite involved and eclectic. I started talking about how I think that sci-fi and fantasy have, for many, taken the place of myth and religion - not that they're strictly analogous, but that they can fill a void. I used examples from LotR and Stargate. With the buildup to the BDM, they all know about my passion for all things Firefly. What was interesting to me was how uninterested the class members seemed to be in this analysis, how they kind of looked at me funny for being interested in these things to this level, and how embarrassing the whole situation was. I have been pondering whether they lack understanding or acceptance or I lack my mind. I suppose that there might be other, somewhat less extreme possibilities as well.


Kathy A - Jan 30, 2006 12:10:13 pm PST #7836 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

libkitty, you might want to go into exploring how many SF and fantasy books and films are exploring religious questions that mainstream films/TV (particularly) are unwilling/too nervous to tackle.

My feminist lit class in college was strictly SF/Fantasy written by women, and it was interesting to study books like Frankenstein and stories like "Shambleau" in feminist terms and how they contrasted with similar books/stories written by men in the mainstream literary circles of their times.


beekaytee - Jan 30, 2006 12:12:57 pm PST #7837 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

The minister as the church where I teach relationship classes organized a viewing of the Matrix. She rented a huge tv and borrowed my dvd. There were actually two different groups. They were so into the discussion we had to kick them out after 5 hours!

There is SO much of a connection between scifi/fantasy and spirituality libkitty. It boggles me that your group was boggled.

Kathy makes a good suggestion. Specific themes might get the ball rolling.