This here's a recipe for unpleasantness.

Mal ,'Objects In Space'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Narrator - Oct 22, 2005 6:40:15 am PDT #7042 of 10001
The evil is this way?

Saw Serenity again last night, with one of my sisters. She did not watch "Firefly" or "Buffy" or "Angel." She liked most of the movie. Laughed out loud a lot. But the scenes with the Reavers freaked her out and she would not go see the film again. (She regularly sees movies she likes mulitple times.)

This sister sees a lot of movies and had seen the "Serenity" previews several times. She was not interested in seeing the movie after seeing the previews and only went because I suggested it. After she saw "Serenity" she thought the movie was not well-marketed. She said that fans of the show were already going to see the movie and needed very little prompting. It was folks who never saw the series or any of Joss' work who needed to be told why they should want to go.


IAmNotReallyASpring - Oct 22, 2005 9:06:45 am PDT #7043 of 10001
I think Freddy Quimby should walk out of here a free hotel

After she saw "Serenity" she thought the movie was not well-marketed.

When I told friends I had seen and enjoyed Serenity, I, without fail, got a "Really?" or some variation on "Really?" . It has a B-movie sheen and the telly ads didn't work to dispel that.


Kalshane - Oct 22, 2005 12:44:40 pm PDT #7044 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Oh, addendum to my post last night, after the movie my friend did take a moment to mention how positively smoking she thought Gina Torres was in The Dress.

As for the earlier references to wanting more Dark!Mal, a world of no. I think he was plenty dark in the final cut of Serenity, and I had plenty of love for the character to excuse his behavior. Had they gone any darker, I would have hated him. I can't imagine how people going in cold would have reacted.


Zenkitty - Oct 22, 2005 12:47:09 pm PDT #7045 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Kalshane, you're probably right about DarkerMal. I wouldn't want him to be any more tortured or cruel than he is.

Some of the scenes I've read in the script that were not in the movie, I think the movie's better without, and the DarkerMal stuff is undoubtedly in that category.


Beverly - Oct 22, 2005 3:35:42 pm PDT #7046 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

There's a meme on LJ right now. Oh like you were surprised. Anyhow, it's "Which Peanuts character are you?"

One of the possible answers is Marcie. Sir.

OMG! It all makes sense, now. Zoe is totally Marcie!


Betsy HP - Oct 22, 2005 4:01:51 pm PDT #7047 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

ita, why don't you count as a fighter? Because you've totally got professional counted. Just the not-killing-your-coworkers thing proves that beyond debate.


Lee - Oct 22, 2005 4:14:16 pm PDT #7048 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I was wondering the same thing, Betsy, but then I guessed that by break 50%, ita means go over 50%, and not just be at 50%.


JohnSweden - Oct 22, 2005 5:38:03 pm PDT #7049 of 10001
I can't even.

Saw Serenity again tonight with a group of Browncoats in a "VIP" theatre (like, 24 seats and they bring drinks to your seat). It was a nice way to see it. We went out to dinner as a group afterwards and had a very pleasant time chatting about the film. It always surprises me when there are people who are fans of the film who didn't watch Buffy or Angel at all. One guy said that the dark setting of FF/Serenity really appealled to him, but the brighter look of Buffy never did.


Betsy HP - Oct 22, 2005 5:56:24 pm PDT #7050 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Sometimes genre matters. I love Tim's work a lot, but *The Inside* was too scary for me; it pushed in a different direction than his other work and I couldn't/didn't want to cope.


§ ita § - Oct 22, 2005 7:33:13 pm PDT #7051 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yes, Perkins -- that's what I meant by break 50%. Half just doesn't cut it.