I was wondering the same thing, Betsy, but then I guessed that by break 50%, ita means go over 50%, and not just be at 50%.
Also, you can tell it's not gonna have a happy ending when the main guy's all bumpy.
Tara ,'First Date'
Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains
Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.
Lee - Oct 22, 2005 4:14:16 pm PDT #7048 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
JohnSweden - Oct 22, 2005 5:38:03 pm PDT #7049 of 10001
I can't even.
Saw Serenity again tonight with a group of Browncoats in a "VIP" theatre (like, 24 seats and they bring drinks to your seat). It was a nice way to see it. We went out to dinner as a group afterwards and had a very pleasant time chatting about the film. It always surprises me when there are people who are fans of the film who didn't watch Buffy or Angel at all. One guy said that the dark setting of FF/Serenity really appealled to him, but the brighter look of Buffy never did.
Betsy HP - Oct 22, 2005 5:56:24 pm PDT #7050 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
Sometimes genre matters. I love Tim's work a lot, but *The Inside* was too scary for me; it pushed in a different direction than his other work and I couldn't/didn't want to cope.
§ ita § - Oct 22, 2005 7:33:13 pm PDT #7051 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Yes, Perkins -- that's what I meant by break 50%. Half just doesn't cut it.
Lee - Oct 22, 2005 7:35:27 pm PDT #7052 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
Woohoo! I understand ita was right.
Betsy HP - Oct 22, 2005 7:56:37 pm PDT #7053 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
t is dejected in her wrongness
Cashmere - Oct 23, 2005 1:40:42 am PDT #7054 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.
Saw Serenity again tonight with a group of Browncoats in a "VIP" theatre (like, 24 seats and they bring drinks to your seat). It was a nice way to see it.
This is how I want to see it again.
Kevin - Oct 23, 2005 5:04:40 am PDT #7055 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
Personally, I would have kept the Dark!Mal moments in. It's the driving of the characters to extreme circumstances that interests me. Fox!Mal (as evident by the difference of 'Serenity' (pilot) to 'The Train Job') annoys me. If I wanted Chandler, I'd watch Friends.
I certainly think the advertising for Serenity is just.. not right, in retrospect. But it's a hard thing to market. I had a go at putting together a trailer for the DVD yesterday, which roughly included:
- Starts "Secrets are not my concern. Keeping them, is" from The Operative.
- "Serenity" theme, Universal logo.
- Serenity logo, pulls out to ship.
- Fly by of Serenity at the end of the film ("Love").
- Serenity landing in Beaumonde.
- River pre-Miranda Fruity Oaty Bar freakage (not the Oaty Bar itself, River's flash reactions).
- "Who are we going to find in there... the girl, or the weapon?"
- River Reaver grabbing throat freakage.
- Kaylee on Haven, shocked. River stood beside the burning swing.
- "From Oscar nominee Joss Whedon"
- Shots of crew, with guns, wondering around Miranda.
- Bodies. River freaking out. "God, make me a stone".
- Review quote.
- "I know the secret. The truth that burned up River Tam's brain."
- Another review quote.
- "This is what they feared she knew. Somebody has to speak for these people".
- "Serenity on DVD" with date.
The end. It's all undercut with emotional music. It's very serious in tone. There's little CGI. It's nearly all character shots talking.
It won't go anywhere, as I don't edit trailers for a living. And it's quite possibly crap. But I think it's more newbie friendly, as it's very much not screaming "B MOVIE@~!" to me, it's saying "Intelligent, serious film about.. something".
Kalshane - Oct 23, 2005 6:21:32 am PDT #7056 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
Personally, I would have kept the Dark!Mal moments in. It's the driving of the characters to extreme circumstances that interests me. Fox!Mal (as evident by the difference of 'Serenity' (pilot) to 'The Train Job') annoys me. If I wanted Chandler, I'd watch Friends
There is a point where you go from dark and interesting to "no redeeming value". I personally think making him darker than he already was in the film would cross that line. Yes, TTJ!Mal is the lightest we ever see him, but still kicks Crow into the engine. He's still not all flowers and puppies. He also pretty close to Serenity the pilot Mal in every other episode of the series.
SailAweigh - Oct 23, 2005 6:45:27 am PDT #7057 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
I have to agree with the level of torturedness displayed by Mal in the movie. I like Dark!Mal, but any darker and I would have been saying "WTF, why aren't these people mutinying?" As it was, I asked that a couple times in the movie, anyway! The only excuse I had was having knowledge of the series, and there's a percentage of the people who went to the movie who didn't have that to refer back to. As much as I like Dark!Mal, I wonder how many viewers were turned off by him?