Angel: Eve. So, I guess we should, I don't know, talk? Eve: About what? Angel: About what happened back there with us. Eve: Angel, it's not like this is the first time I've had sex under a mystical influence. I went to U.C. Santa Cruz.

'Life of the Party'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


aurelia - Oct 21, 2005 12:48:42 pm PDT #6907 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Having read the script in the visual companion, I have a question about the deleted scenes. Were any of them cut after the April/May screenings or were those cuts already made?


Tamara - Oct 21, 2005 1:02:00 pm PDT #6908 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

Aurelia,

Some of the cuts were made before the December 16th screening I saw last year (the Mal and Inara almost kiss) and some of them were made after (the extra footage of Inara and Mal fleeing the training house). I don't recall any of them being in the April/May screenings.


aurelia - Oct 21, 2005 1:04:27 pm PDT #6909 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Thanks, Tamara.


Kevin - Oct 21, 2005 1:17:57 pm PDT #6910 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Mal/Inara was in the february UIP screening in London. River's Reaver fighting was also significantly (by a few minutes, I guestimate) longer. Mal/Inara had gone again in March.


SailAweigh - Oct 21, 2005 1:54:44 pm PDT #6911 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

You know, somehow it never occured to me that each screening session might have had considerably different versions of the movie. I expected that things like the CGI and the soundtrack would slowly be layered in, and, after all the screenings were over to have some of the scenes deleted, but not-put in and taken back out.


Deena - Oct 21, 2005 1:57:59 pm PDT #6912 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

"I'm not a multi, stupid."

I thought she said this but with noise in the background so it wasn't clear.


Kevin - Oct 21, 2005 2:04:51 pm PDT #6913 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

As I understand it, with the actual US test screenings, they made some radical cuts to try to up the audience reaction to things. Example, one of them where The Operative barely speaks the entire film.

The very early cuts I saw of the movie, it wasn't nearly finished. "VFX MISSING" plastered across the screen and such.

The March screening had Mr Universes jokes back in, and Rivers "I'm the brains of the operation" line whilst wearing the goggles at the beginning, which was brilliant. Although totally off if you weren't a fan, I suspect. I've never seen Jayne's "double dickless" joke in any of the cuts, which is a shame - I bet Adam Baldwin nailed the lines.

ETA: Also, I wanted Mals "fucking shoot you down" line back. Sob. With the body throwing at the crew. Dark Mal! Dark Mal!


Zenkitty - Oct 21, 2005 2:14:58 pm PDT #6914 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Where were those Dark Mal lines/scenes, Kevin? I don't recall them from the script in the Visual Companion.

I missed the kuffle. Thankfully. Kuffles of whatever strength are why I try to avoid being in a fandom. Folks tend to bicker, and bickering makes me upset, even when I'm not involved. (Not talking about this particular kuffle, which was quite a restrained one, but fandom kuffles in general.) Actually, that may be why I tend to avoid unnecessary human contact... I'll just be over here.


Tamara - Oct 21, 2005 2:23:30 pm PDT #6915 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

I'm with you Kevin on the "fucking shoot you down" line. I thought that was one of the most powerful and terrifying moments of the film.

Zenkitty, it is when Mal is telling the crew to help him or take their leave on Haven. That scene was lightened up. A lot.


Kevin - Oct 21, 2005 2:25:13 pm PDT #6916 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

See, if the above kuffle had been done face to face, I can guarentee it wouldn't have been a big issue, and gone on for about 2 minutes. Online sites exaggerate everything.