"America! Fuck yeah!"

This still reduces me to giggles.

Agreed. Hasn't changed my burning passion for Jayne Cobb. ;-D On the other hand, my passion for Dennis Miller has turned into pity and revulsion.

Way to summarize my own feelings. I used to love "Dennis Miller Live" (remember the "news") and gradually grew annoyed and disgusted by his increasingly pro-war, pro-Bush, anti-civilization (he really ticked me off when he expressed contempt for those who cared about Iraq's artifacts and museums; hey Dennis, do they call wherever you're from "the cradle of civilization"?), and anti-common sense and compassion views. It was like, before, sure he was cynical, but he was cynical in a biting, anti-authoritarian, tell-it-like-it-is way, but after 9/11 he became cynical in a "everyone hates each other, let's just kill all these brown people" way. The alternate reality explanation is as good as any. Oh to go where W. lost in 2000...

Oh, getting back to Firefly...uh...yeah. Great show. Cancelled too damn soon. Can't wait for the movie.

Oh, getting back to Firefly...uh...yeah. Great show. Cancelled too damn soon. Can't wait for the movie.

Gee, do ya think?

Busted!

Dangit! Here I was, thinking I was being discreet.....mumble, mumble, mumble....

hey Dennis, do they call wherever you're from "the cradle of civilization"?

Not since the New Regime's Revisionist History Project, wherein all things "civilized" come from these here United States. Y'know, English, the Bible, Democratic Theory, Voodoo Economics....

Not since the New Regime's Revisionist History Project, wherein all things "civilized" come from these here United States.

And nothing bad or immoral has ever happened here, except for that gay plague. Seriously, I'm reading obituraies of Arthur Miller, and they're barely MENTIONING the whole HUAC hounding. Makes baby Jesus cry. In order to avoid it, some are even going so far as to not talk about The Crucible.

Seriously, I'm reading obituraies of Arthur Miller, and they're barely MENTIONING the whole HUAC hounding.

You must be reading different obits than I am, 'cause there's three things in every single one I've read so far:

• Death of a Salesman
• HUAC/The Crucible
• Marilyn Monroe

Seriously, it's all, "Blah blah blah, Death of a Salesman at age blah, fallout with blah over naming names, HUAC, The Crucible, Marilyn, break, The Misfits, divorce, Death of a Salesman revival blah blah blah." And it's not the usual case of Standard AP Copy. These are the obits they trot the actual writers out for--they're just all covering the same three things.

Sometimes, they manage to work in the part where The Crucible deals with HUAC *and* the temptations of a young, nubile (read: Monroe) woman, and if they're feeling really ambitious, they also work in After the Fall and the negative reaction to it, but I haven't seen one that doesn't highlight HUAC.

My memory is iffy on this... but did they talk about his son's death during WWII due to a defective aircraft part or something, and how that inspired a play that I forgot the name of?

My memory is iffy on this... but did they talk about his son's death during WWII due to a defective aircraft part or something, and how that inspired a play that I forgot the name of?

The play would be All My Sons, but Miller was in his 20s for WWII, and his first marriage was in 1940, so he wasn't drawing from his own life for that.

OK, then the death of the son is what happened in the play, right? The father was a military contractor that sold defective parts during the war IIRC, and his son dies as a result?

eta: anyway, since Miller didn't actually lose a son, that explains why that "fact" was not mentioned....