Xander: Am I right, Giles? Giles: I'm almost certain you're not. Though, to be fair, I haven't been listening.

'Sleeper'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


tommyrot - Feb 12, 2005 10:33:54 pm PST #669 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

My memory is iffy on this... but did they talk about his son's death during WWII due to a defective aircraft part or something, and how that inspired a play that I forgot the name of?


P.M. Marc - Feb 13, 2005 7:27:47 am PST #670 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

My memory is iffy on this... but did they talk about his son's death during WWII due to a defective aircraft part or something, and how that inspired a play that I forgot the name of?

The play would be All My Sons, but Miller was in his 20s for WWII, and his first marriage was in 1940, so he wasn't drawing from his own life for that.


tommyrot - Feb 13, 2005 7:38:01 am PST #671 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

OK, then the death of the son is what happened in the play, right? The father was a military contractor that sold defective parts during the war IIRC, and his son dies as a result?

eta: anyway, since Miller didn't actually lose a son, that explains why that "fact" was not mentioned....


P.M. Marc - Feb 13, 2005 7:40:15 am PST #672 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Tommyrot, I think that's the basic premise. It's a Miller I've never read nor seen, though.


tommyrot - Feb 13, 2005 7:42:54 am PST #673 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Part of my brain is telling me that play was based on an Ibsen play. The Master Builder, maybe?


DCJensen - Feb 13, 2005 7:57:46 am PST #674 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

At the first college I went to, there was a bronze bust of Ibson on a high pedestal. Somewhere I have a photo of him wearing my hat, wraparound sunglasses, and striped red and blue polo shirt.


Tom Scola - Feb 13, 2005 8:06:34 am PST #675 of 10001
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

The Ibsen play that Miller adapted was Enemy of the People.


tommyrot - Feb 13, 2005 8:08:57 am PST #676 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Oh. Now I remember. Sorta.

Enemy of the People was about a guy who tried to expose the dangers of... something or other... and the town got mad at him? The dangers of the town's hot spring water spa, or something?


Tom Scola - Feb 13, 2005 8:36:21 am PST #677 of 10001
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

Yeah, Tom that's about all I remember from my college course on Ibsen.

I have a car-wreck fascination watching people's reaction to 9/11. Along with Dennis Miller, James Lileks went through a similar, Al-Capp-like, transformation from witty satirist to bitter reactionary.


Tamara - Feb 13, 2005 1:57:31 pm PST #678 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

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Seems like there is a Comic prequel for Serenity in the works. Details are sketchy.