We don't see many places listed by name, though we do see Whitefall.
Sooner or later, you're gonna want it. And the second — the second — that happens, you know I'll be there. I'll slip in, have myself a real good day.
Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'
Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains
Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.
Mr. Broom - Oct 12, 2005 10:46:42 am PDT #6406 of 10001
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor
Aims - Oct 12, 2005 10:47:39 am PDT #6407 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.
And possibly the stuff that comes out of his head.
Don't you mean his ass?
§ ita § - Oct 12, 2005 10:51:24 am PDT #6408 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I just had a discussion with a co-worker who thinks that River dying would have worked with the narrative. Which made me realise which death would have pissed me off the most. Not Zoe's, nor Mal's, but River's. Because of the story, not the character alone. It'd have been like the poor kid in The Princess Bride with the whole "You mean she dies? Jesus, Joss! What did you make me watch this thing for?"
It'd have just been narratively wrong. Simon dying to save River, sure, but not River, not the object to be saved. Her sacrifice would have made me retch.
I think he was just numbed by the death of Wash.
Calli - Oct 12, 2005 10:54:55 am PDT #6409 of 10001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
We don't see many places listed by name, though we do see Whitefall.
True. I was just wondering if anyone with sharper eyes than mine had seen any of the actors from HoG or suchlike.
Yeah, killing River would definitely not worked for me. Even after Wash died, and I didn't know if any of the others would survive, I figured River would. For me it was pretty much the River and Mal story.
libkitty - Oct 12, 2005 10:56:15 am PDT #6410 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs
Yeah, it would be like killing Buffy. Oh, um, well, nevermind.
Atropa - Oct 12, 2005 11:22:04 am PDT #6411 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.
That first NF pic reminds me far too much of stoner buddies of the early 90s
Good lord, yes. Same here.
lisah - Oct 12, 2005 11:25:35 am PDT #6412 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate
It'd have been like the poor kid in The Princess Bride with the whole "You mean she dies? Jesus, Joss! What did you make me watch this thing for?"
Oh that reminds me (and forgive me if somebody posted this already) my coworker (new convert after seeing the movie) sent me this the other day. (I didn't think it was the funniest thing ever but somebody here might get a kick out of it)
Kid: Who gets the Operative?!
Grandfather: I don't understand?
Kid: [annoyed] Who kills the Operative? At the end, someone's got to do it! Is it River? Who?!
Grandfather: Nobody. Nobody kills him. He lives.
Kid: You mean he wins? Jesus, Grandpa! What did you read me this thing for?
Grandfather: You know, you...you've been very sick and you're taking this story very seriously. I think we'd better stop now.
Kid: No. I...I'm okay. I'm okay. Sit down. I'm alright.
Grandfather: Okay. Alright, now lets see...where were we? Oh, yes, Miranda...
§ ita § - Oct 12, 2005 11:31:04 am PDT #6413 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Princess Bride applies to a lot. Consider, for instance:
THE VIEWER: CLOSEUP
THE VIEWER
Who gets Doc?
JOSS WHEDON
I don't understand.
THE VIEWER
Who kills Doc? At the end, somebody's got to do it. Is it Spike? Who?
JOSS WHEDON
Nobody. Nobody kills him. He lives.
THE VIEWER
You mean he wins? Jesus, Joss! What did you read me this thing for?
THE VIEWER desperately fights for control.
JOSS WHEDON
You know, it's been five seasons and you're taking this story very seriously. I think we better stop now.
(starts standing up)
THE VIEWER
No! I'm okay. I'm okay.
(gestures toward the chair)
-- keep filming. All right?
Topic!Cindy - Oct 12, 2005 11:42:02 am PDT #6414 of 10001
What is even happening?
Cindy, I hashed these out, and then got distracted. Feel free to take, ignore, correct, at your leisure.
ita, I LOVE them. Thank you so much. I've already deleted my old User Pics and added all three. I named the "My Master" shot "Master Joss Bator"--just cuz.
Sean K - Oct 12, 2005 11:44:20 am PDT #6415 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Huh. So it turns out my friend David made The Dress*, and all the other costumes in the movie.
(*I swore someone linked to a picture of it in this thread, but I can't, for the life of me, find it. But you all know the dress I'm talking about...)