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Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.
§ ita § - Oct 12, 2005 10:06:14 am PDT #6400 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Calli - Oct 12, 2005 10:14:32 am PDT #6401 of 10001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
Wow. A lot of the wiki stuff on Han Solo is non-movie based. I guess I should take it that the whole book/comic/movie thing comprises canon in the Lucasverse.
Sean K - Oct 12, 2005 10:31:49 am PDT #6402 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
I guess I should take it that the whole book/comic/movie thing comprises canon in the Lucasverse.
Eh. My understanding is that it depends on who you talk to. Also, as far as George Lucas is concerned, the only things officially canonical are the movies.
And possibly the stuff that comes out of his head.
Frankenbuddha - Oct 12, 2005 10:33:02 am PDT #6403 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
And possibly the stuff that comes out of his head.
So there's canonical sawdust in the Star Wars movies?
amych - Oct 12, 2005 10:33:38 am PDT #6404 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
canonical sawdust
What do you think was on the floor of the cantina?
Calli - Oct 12, 2005 10:42:05 am PDT #6405 of 10001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
I was wondering about something in Serenity. When the crew discoveres that the Operative has had everyone who ever sheltered them killed, do we see the folks from Heart of Gold in the pictures of dead folk? It seems like a logical place that they could have used as a hide out. Heaven knows Jayne would like it.
Mr. Broom - Oct 12, 2005 10:46:42 am PDT #6406 of 10001
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor
We don't see many places listed by name, though we do see Whitefall.
Aims - Oct 12, 2005 10:47:39 am PDT #6407 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.
And possibly the stuff that comes out of his head.
Don't you mean his ass?
§ ita § - Oct 12, 2005 10:51:24 am PDT #6408 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I just had a discussion with a co-worker who thinks that River dying would have worked with the narrative. Which made me realise which death would have pissed me off the most. Not Zoe's, nor Mal's, but River's. Because of the story, not the character alone. It'd have been like the poor kid in The Princess Bride with the whole "You mean she dies? Jesus, Joss! What did you make me watch this thing for?"
It'd have just been narratively wrong. Simon dying to save River, sure, but not River, not the object to be saved. Her sacrifice would have made me retch.
I think he was just numbed by the death of Wash.
Calli - Oct 12, 2005 10:54:55 am PDT #6409 of 10001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
We don't see many places listed by name, though we do see Whitefall.
True. I was just wondering if anyone with sharper eyes than mine had seen any of the actors from HoG or suchlike.
Yeah, killing River would definitely not worked for me. Even after Wash died, and I didn't know if any of the others would survive, I figured River would. For me it was pretty much the River and Mal story.